From cfg at davehudson.net  Tue Apr  1 08:10:32 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:10:32 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Oh crap, has anyone else heard about this?
In-Reply-To: <6645152a0803312054v2fafd40au1007b40624754d4d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6645152a0803312054v2fafd40au1007b40624754d4d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007201c893f1$630ae940$2201a8c0@davehp64>

You almost had me ;-) 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mayson [mailto:john at mayson.us] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:55 PM
To: Central Florida Geeks
Subject: [cfgeeks] Oh crap, has anyone else heard about this?

http://fakekevininscoe.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-am-innocent-this-is-travesty-o
f.html

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From cfg at davehudson.net  Tue Apr  1 08:14:57 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:14:57 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Virus Spyware etc Cleaner
In-Reply-To: <1207017627.6794.0.camel@qward>
References: <000001c8932d$3787fed0$2201a8c0@davehp64><1206967958.7587.11.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com><B3175591-399B-4C06-993F-2E0925DF97FF@cfl.rr.com>
	<1207017627.6794.0.camel@qward>
Message-ID: <007301c893f2$00b26880$2201a8c0@davehp64>

Downloading it now :-)

Will be done in 3 mins 45 secs... my freakin Comcast Workplace is outta
control - they bumped it up again... now getting over 30mbs down and over
2mbs up....  695mb cd in 4 mins... unbelievable! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn McMahon [mailto:syberghost at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:40 PM
To: Central Florida Geeks
Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Virus Spyware etc Cleaner

On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 20:20 -0400, Gilbert Young wrote:
> I'd say it but you'd hate me.  OK hate me.  Buy a Mac and run 
> parallels and copy the windows image after you create it.  If it gets 
> hosed, delete it, copy the original back.

Ubuntu includes parallels.  And VMWare server.  :)


From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Apr  1 10:16:40 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:16:40 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] DXing opportunity
Message-ID: <200804011016.40220.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

Hi all,

Using about 40 pounds of aluminum, a whole bunch of sodium hydroxide I created 
enough hydrogen to fill up about 1500 balloons. I used an entire bag of 
calcium chloride to remove all water vapor, so the balloons have pure 
hydrogen.

I attached all the balloons to a dining room chair, loaded up my laptop 
computer and my Grundig radio with 300 feet of bell wire for an antenna, and 
cut the anchor rope. I think I'm currently about 5 football fields off the 
ground. I can't tell whether I'm still rising.

Anyway, now I'm high enough that I'm getting all sorts of wifi hotspots, but 
my question is, now that I've got this opportunity, what shortwave stations 
should I DX, and what are their frequencies. 

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/

From cfg at davehudson.net  Tue Apr  1 13:27:42 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:27:42 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] DXing opportunity
In-Reply-To: <200804011016.40220.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <200804011016.40220.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c8941d$b19c6bc0$2201a8c0@davehp64>

Can we get a picture of that?! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Litt [mailto:slitt at troubleshooters.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:17 AM
To: 'Central Florida Geeks'
Subject: [cfgeeks] DXing opportunity

Hi all,

Using about 40 pounds of aluminum, a whole bunch of sodium hydroxide I
created enough hydrogen to fill up about 1500 balloons. I used an entire bag
of calcium chloride to remove all water vapor, so the balloons have pure
hydrogen.

I attached all the balloons to a dining room chair, loaded up my laptop
computer and my Grundig radio with 300 feet of bell wire for an antenna, and
cut the anchor rope. I think I'm currently about 5 football fields off the
ground. I can't tell whether I'm still rising.

Anyway, now I'm high enough that I'm getting all sorts of wifi hotspots, but
my question is, now that I've got this opportunity, what shortwave stations
should I DX, and what are their frequencies. 

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 13:38:29 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:38:29 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] It's a Rickroll Thing
Message-ID: <1207071510.14867.14.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

telnet psyduck.timminstechnologies.com

Also from the same guy:

248-434-5508


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From octo at logicprobe.org  Tue Apr  1 13:49:35 2008
From: octo at logicprobe.org (Derek Konigsberg)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:49:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] DXing opportunity
In-Reply-To: <200804011016.40220.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <200804011016.40220.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOC.4.64.0804011348120.16768@hyperion.logicprobe.org>

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Steve Litt wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Using about 40 pounds of aluminum, a whole bunch of sodium hydroxide I created
> enough hydrogen to fill up about 1500 balloons. I used an entire bag of
> calcium chloride to remove all water vapor, so the balloons have pure
> hydrogen.
>
> I attached all the balloons to a dining room chair, loaded up my laptop
> computer and my Grundig radio with 300 feet of bell wire for an antenna, and
> cut the anchor rope. I think I'm currently about 5 football fields off the
> ground. I can't tell whether I'm still rising.
>
> Anyway, now I'm high enough that I'm getting all sorts of wifi hotspots, but
> my question is, now that I've got this opportunity, what shortwave stations
> should I DX, and what are their frequencies.

I think you'd have more luck trying to implement RFC 4824 (The 
Transmission of IP Datagrams over the Semaphore Flag Signaling System).

---------------------------
Derek Konigsberg
octo at logicprobe.org
http://hecgeek.blogspot.com
---------------------------

From octo at logicprobe.org  Tue Apr  1 13:51:31 2008
From: octo at logicprobe.org (Derek Konigsberg)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:51:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Its that time of year...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOC.4.64.0804011350590.16768@hyperion.logicprobe.org>

"Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Version 4.0: P2P2PSIP"
http://www3.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaplan-sip-four-oh-00

---------------------------
Derek Konigsberg
octo at logicprobe.org
http://hecgeek.blogspot.com
---------------------------

From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Apr  1 14:00:37 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:00:37 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] DXing opportunity
In-Reply-To: <002a01c8941d$b19c6bc0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
References: <200804011016.40220.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<002a01c8941d$b19c6bc0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
Message-ID: <200804011400.37379.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

Neither my laptop nor my Grundig has a camera, so I'll describe it verbally.

My chair is a normal wooden chair without armrests. I've belted myself in with  
a couple very long belts from a big and tall men's store. Most of the 
balloons are attached to the backrest, but a lot are attached to the legs 
also. Unfortunately, the result is that I'm facing down, with the belts 
holding me in the chair. At first this was disturbing and uncomfortable, but 
I'm used to it now.

I'm currently above an ocean, not sure which one. The shoreline is at about a 
20 degree angle from straight down, and is visible from time to time through 
the clouds. I'm getting short wave stations from all over the globe, and also 
getting WBZ from Boston, WLS from Chicago, and I'm getting something on 
640Khz that I think might be KFI from Los Angeles.

There's almost no electrical noise up here. It's some of the most pristine 
radio listening I've ever heard. There were a couple cloud to cloud lightning 
strikes that made some electrical noise, and some fool in one of these little 
airplanes with lots of sparkplugs made a bunch of interference just before he 
almost hit me. I'll be complaining to the FAA about that guy when I get down.

Next time I do this I'll be bringing a lightweight liferaft. It never occurred 
to me that I might come down over water and have a rather long swim. A guy in 
a lawnchair with about ten weatherballoons passed me an hour ago, and he had 
a liferaft. He told me this is his sixteenth flight.

Gotta go now and do some more DXing. More later...

SteveT

On Tuesday 01 April 2008 13:27, Dave Hudson wrote:
> Can we get a picture of that?!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Litt [mailto:slitt at troubleshooters.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:17 AM
> To: 'Central Florida Geeks'
> Subject: [cfgeeks] DXing opportunity
>
> Hi all,
>
> Using about 40 pounds of aluminum, a whole bunch of sodium hydroxide I
> created enough hydrogen to fill up about 1500 balloons. I used an entire
> bag of calcium chloride to remove all water vapor, so the balloons have
> pure hydrogen.
>
> I attached all the balloons to a dining room chair, loaded up my laptop
> computer and my Grundig radio with 300 feet of bell wire for an antenna,
> and cut the anchor rope. I think I'm currently about 5 football fields off
> the ground. I can't tell whether I'm still rising.
>
> Anyway, now I'm high enough that I'm getting all sorts of wifi hotspots,
> but my question is, now that I've got this opportunity, what shortwave
> stations should I DX, and what are their frequencies.
>
> Thanks
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 14:05:17 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:05:17 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] DXing opportunity
In-Reply-To: <200804011400.37379.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <200804011016.40220.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<002a01c8941d$b19c6bc0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
	<200804011400.37379.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <1207073117.14867.16.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 14:00 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> My chair is a normal wooden chair without armrests. I've belted myself in with  

Because armrests were 75 cents extra, and do they think you're MADE of
money?


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From cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  1 14:22:49 2008
From: cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com (Karen Hill)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Creepy...
Message-ID: <888910.45047.qm@web44914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Dude...please tell me you don't think that's real....

Ghost Hunters last week was awesome!!!!!  Didja see it?

----- Original Message ----
From: Gilbert Young <gjyoung at cfl.rr.com>
To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:54:11 PM
Subject: [cfgeeks] Creepy...

http://tinyurl.com/ysz3a3


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From cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  1 14:31:19 2008
From: cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com (Karen Hill)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] IAK|AT
Message-ID: <18352.1748.qm@web44916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

That's cool.  Sure would love to see that one.  Too bad it's not within driving distance...  ;)

----- Original Message ----
From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:13:58 AM
Subject: [cfgeeks] IAK|AT

Hey Karen, I know you like the little fort in St. Augustine... Check this one in the Old San Juan. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Felipe_del_Morro


http://www.nps.gov/archive/saju/morro.html


Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA


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From cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  1 14:39:57 2008
From: cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com (Karen Hill)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] We've turned the lights out. Now it's your turn
Message-ID: <951518.97253.qm@web44901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Has anyone seen any earth images from that hour??


----- Original Message ----
From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:22:56 AM
Subject: [cfgeeks] We've turned the lights out. Now it's your turn

Google is Black.


http://www.google.com/intl/en/earthhour/


Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA


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From cfg at davehudson.net  Tue Apr  1 14:42:45 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:42:45 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
Message-ID: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>

I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
 
I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
 
http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
 
I have my router set to port forward external traffic from external:8080 to
192.168.1.144:8080
 
I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go to it
from a computer inside my LAN.
 
If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e. 192.168.1.148
with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that server.
 
I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
 
I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
 
Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external?? 
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 15:01:46 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:01:46 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Wish this was real...
Message-ID: <1207076506.14867.18.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

...I've got a list of people who need to go:

http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html


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From syberghost at gmail.com  Tue Apr  1 15:22:36 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:22:36 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Gear up, troops...
In-Reply-To: <A18B6F74-754A-4626-B7FC-9D9D00A23674@cfl.rr.com>
References: <5BC2B49F-6721-486F-841F-D6616A7A5E43@cfl.rr.com>
	<A18B6F74-754A-4626-B7FC-9D9D00A23674@cfl.rr.com>
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On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 20:44 -0400, Gilbert Young wrote:
> I think this one is the best, and will cause the least computer  
> support calls...
> 
> http://kovaya.com/miscellany/2007/10/insert-coin.html

That works, BTW.  :)


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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Apr  1 15:57:29 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:57:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
In-Reply-To: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>
References: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804011557140.27541@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Is the default route set to the IP that is doing the redirection?

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Dave Hudson wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:42:45 -0400
> From: Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net>
> To: 'Central Florida Geeks' <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
> 
> I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
>
> I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
>
> http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
>
> I have my router set to port forward external traffic from external:8080 to
> 192.168.1.144:8080
>
> I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go to it
> from a computer inside my LAN.
>
> If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e. 192.168.1.148
> with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that server.
>
> I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
>
> I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
>
> Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external??
>
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Tue Apr  1 17:08:00 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:08:00 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Sockets programming presentation at GOLUG 4/2/2008
Message-ID: <200804011708.01054.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

Hi all,

Tomorrow night, Wednesday 4/2/2008, at 7pm, Gary Miller will give a 
presentation about socket programming at GoLUG (Greater Orlando Linux User 
Group).

You'll learn how to set up the socket server, access it with a socket client. 
Gary will cover security issues to make things safe. 

Who: Gary Miller, professional developer
What: Socket programming
When: Wednesday 4/2/2008 at 7pm
Where: Seminole County Library
       215 N. Oxford Road
       Casselberry, Florida 32707
       407-665-1500
       http://www.seminolecountyfl.gov/lls/library/mapcentral.asp

If you've ever wanted to know the RIGHT way to create socket programs, you'll 
learn it at this GoLUG meeting.

SteveT
 
Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/

From kevin at inscoe.org  Tue Apr  1 17:07:24 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:07:24 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] SpySpace
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804011407wc56abbfo5c58d5657dec81c4@mail.gmail.com>

Spy Agency Announces New Social Network Site

Move over Facebook and MySpace -- the NSA is now in the social
networking business.

This week, the NSA announced SpySpace.com -- a social networking site
developed by the NSA itself. SpySpace.com will allow ordinary Americans
to instantly share their private data with the government -- eliminating
the NSA's reliance on cumbersome requirements such as warrants.

SpySpace.com allows users to upload personal data about who their
friends are, what sites they visit, what books and newspapers they are
reading, and where they live directly into a massive database controlled
by the NSA. Messages sent though the site will be automatically copied
-- without warrants -- to a secure room controlled by the NSA.
Third party apps make it easy to tag your friends as "suspicious" or
"unpatriotic."

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell hailed the site's
potential. "Since Congress has so far failed to protect telecoms against
lawsuits, wholesale domestic spying is more difficult than ever.
SpySpace will give our agents the access they need to protect Americans
in their homes -- all legally, and all without warrants or other
restrictions."

SpySpace apologist Richard Esguerra expressed enthusiasm for the new
site. "I think it's neat. I'm not doing anything wrong, so I don't have
anything to hide. And if I can save the government the few seconds it
takes to get a warrant, I'm helping my country fight evildoers."

The use of social networking sites has exploded in recent years, with
millions of people making private information public by uploading data
about their social networks, consumption habits, and travel patterns.

For more about social networking sites and the growing potential for
privacy violations:
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/09/myspace-and-facebook-plan-use-personal-data-targeted-advertising

For this complete post:
http://www.eff.org/pages/04/01

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Skype: ke3vin
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Tue Apr  1 17:17:44 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:17:44 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
In-Reply-To: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>
References: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804011417o5072fea5s15c72647bff5e983@mail.gmail.com>

In addition to what Kevin said (default route) ...  are you using IP
and not NameVirtualHost? Do you get the wrong page or a time out from
outside the router? Check your apache log for errors or access. If you
using NVH the name has to match for it to get the correct site even if
the IP works. On my WRT54G I sometimes have to power cycle it when I
change forwards to a new host or port (Linksys firmware).

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
>
> I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
>
> http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
>
> I have my router set to port forward external traffic from external:8080 to
> 192.168.1.144:8080
>
> I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go to it
> from a computer inside my LAN.
>
> If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e. 192.168.1.148
> with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that server.
>
> I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
>
> I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
>
> Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external??
> _______________________________________________
>  cfgeeks mailing list
>  cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>  http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
>



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kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From john at mayson.us  Tue Apr  1 17:47:47 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:47:47 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] He's free!
Message-ID: <47F2AD83.5000402@mayson.us>

http://fakekevininscoe.blogspot.com/2008/04/free-at-last-free-at-last-good-god.html

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From kevin at inscoe.org  Tue Apr  1 19:24:37 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:24:37 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] He's free!
In-Reply-To: <47F2AD83.5000402@mayson.us>
References: <47F2AD83.5000402@mayson.us>
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804011624r33ba063bs508a175ecf3a5220@mail.gmail.com>

http://kevininscoe.com/pub/kevinsfree.jpg

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM, John Mayson <john at mayson.us> wrote:
> http://fakekevininscoe.blogspot.com/2008/04/free-at-last-free-at-last-good-god.html
>
>  --
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>  Austin, Texas, USA
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kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From cfg at davehudson.net  Tue Apr  1 19:55:54 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:55:54 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
In-Reply-To: <e8ce78c90804011417o5072fea5s15c72647bff5e983@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>
	<e8ce78c90804011417o5072fea5s15c72647bff5e983@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c89453$eca8eff0$2201a8c0@davehp64>

Unfortunately, i'm not following you on either one.....

I am not using NVH.

What do you mean about "default route"???????

This is really freakin annoying as I never had this problem with Apache.... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:18 PM
To: Central Florida Geeks
Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question

In addition to what Kevin said (default route) ...  are you using IP and not
NameVirtualHost? Do you get the wrong page or a time out from outside the
router? Check your apache log for errors or access. If you using NVH the
name has to match for it to get the correct site even if the IP works. On my
WRT54G I sometimes have to power cycle it when I change forwards to a new
host or port (Linksys firmware).

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
>
> I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
>
> http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
>
> I have my router set to port forward external traffic from 
> external:8080 to 192.168.1.144:8080
>
> I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go 
> to it from a computer inside my LAN.
>
> If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e. 
> 192.168.1.148 with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that
server.
>
> I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
>
> I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
>
> Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external??
> _______________________________________________
>  cfgeeks mailing list
>  cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>  http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
>



--
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81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Apr  1 19:58:45 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:58:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
In-Reply-To: <006b01c89453$eca8eff0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
References: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>
	<e8ce78c90804011417o5072fea5s15c72647bff5e983@mail.gmail.com>
	<006b01c89453$eca8eff0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804011957440.4214@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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To check your default route run:
ip ro show

If you are running some lame distro that hasn't switched to iproute2 yet
run:
route -n

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Dave Hudson wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:55:54 -0400
> From: Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net>
> To: 'Central Florida Geeks' <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
> 
> Unfortunately, i'm not following you on either one.....
>
> I am not using NVH.
>
> What do you mean about "default route"???????
>
> This is really freakin annoying as I never had this problem with Apache....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:18 PM
> To: Central Florida Geeks
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
>
> In addition to what Kevin said (default route) ...  are you using IP and not
> NameVirtualHost? Do you get the wrong page or a time out from outside the
> router? Check your apache log for errors or access. If you using NVH the
> name has to match for it to get the correct site even if the IP works. On my
> WRT54G I sometimes have to power cycle it when I change forwards to a new
> host or port (Linksys firmware).
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
>>
>> I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
>>
>> http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
>>
>> I have my router set to port forward external traffic from
>> external:8080 to 192.168.1.144:8080
>>
>> I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go
>> to it from a computer inside my LAN.
>>
>> If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e.
>> 192.168.1.148 with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that
> server.
>>
>> I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
>>
>> I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
>>
>> Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external??
>> _______________________________________________
>>  cfgeeks mailing list
>>  cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>  http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by
> 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
> Skype: ke3vin
> "Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence Clark
> Powell _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Apr  1 20:04:51 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:04:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804011957440.4214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64>
	<e8ce78c90804011417o5072fea5s15c72647bff5e983@mail.gmail.com>
	<006b01c89453$eca8eff0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0804011957440.4214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
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I should have mentioned that if you are stuck with route -n the line
that starts with 0.0.0.0 is the default route.

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 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:58:45 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
> 
> To check your default route run:
> ip ro show
>
> If you are running some lame distro that hasn't switched to iproute2 yet
> run:
> route -n
>
> --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Dave Hudson wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:55:54 -0400
>> From: Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net>
>> To: 'Central Florida Geeks' <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
>>
>> Unfortunately, i'm not following you on either one.....
>>
>> I am not using NVH.
>>
>> What do you mean about "default route"???????
>>
>> This is really freakin annoying as I never had this problem with Apache....
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:18 PM
>> To: Central Florida Geeks
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
>>
>> In addition to what Kevin said (default route) ...  are you using IP and not
>> NameVirtualHost? Do you get the wrong page or a time out from outside the
>> router? Check your apache log for errors or access. If you using NVH the
>> name has to match for it to get the correct site even if the IP works. On my
>> WRT54G I sometimes have to power cycle it when I change forwards to a new
>> host or port (Linksys firmware).
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
>>>
>>> I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
>>>
>>> http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
>>>
>>> I have my router set to port forward external traffic from
>>> external:8080 to 192.168.1.144:8080
>>>
>>> I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go
>>> to it from a computer inside my LAN.
>>>
>>> If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e.
>>> 192.168.1.148 with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that
>> server.
>>>
>>> I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
>>>
>>> I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
>>>
>>> Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external??
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>  cfgeeks mailing list
>>>  cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>  http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by
>> 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
>> Skype: ke3vin
>> "Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence Clark
>> Powell _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
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From cfg at davehudson.net  Tue Apr  1 20:09:03 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:09:03 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804011957440.4214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64><e8ce78c90804011417o5072fea5s15c72647bff5e983@mail.gmail.com><006b01c89453$eca8eff0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0804011957440.4214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <006c01c89455$c2ab8210$2201a8c0@davehp64>

DAMN IT!

You guys are going to kick me out of the group if i keep this up......

It was the routing... i forgot to set the default gateway and it had
defaulted to 192.168.1.0.....

Sorry Apache2 for the unfair bashing.....

Its working now :-)

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Korb [mailto:kmk at sanitarium.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:59 PM
To: Central Florida Geeks
Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question

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To check your default route run:
ip ro show

If you are running some lame distro that hasn't switched to iproute2 yet
run:
route -n

- --
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Dave Hudson wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:55:54 -0400
> From: Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net>
> To: 'Central Florida Geeks' <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
> 
> Unfortunately, i'm not following you on either one.....
>
> I am not using NVH.
>
> What do you mean about "default route"???????
>
> This is really freakin annoying as I never had this problem with
Apache....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:18 PM
> To: Central Florida Geeks
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
>
> In addition to what Kevin said (default route) ...  are you using IP 
> and not NameVirtualHost? Do you get the wrong page or a time out from 
> outside the router? Check your apache log for errors or access. If you 
> using NVH the name has to match for it to get the correct site even if 
> the IP works. On my WRT54G I sometimes have to power cycle it when I 
> change forwards to a new host or port (Linksys firmware).
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
>>
>> I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
>>
>> http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
>>
>> I have my router set to port forward external traffic from 
>> external:8080 to 192.168.1.144:8080
>>
>> I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go 
>> to it from a computer inside my LAN.
>>
>> If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e.
>> 192.168.1.148 with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that
> server.
>>
>> I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
>>
>> I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
>>
>> Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external??
>> _______________________________________________
>>  cfgeeks mailing list
>>  cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>  http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N 
> by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
> Skype: ke3vin
> "Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence 
> Clark Powell _______________________________________________
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>
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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Apr  1 20:18:32 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:18:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
In-Reply-To: <006c01c89455$c2ab8210$2201a8c0@davehp64>
References: <003001c89428$2d994040$2201a8c0@davehp64><e8ce78c90804011417o5072fea5s15c72647bff5e983@mail.gmail.com><006b01c89453$eca8eff0$2201a8c0@davehp64>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0804011957440.4214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<006c01c89455$c2ab8210$2201a8c0@davehp64>
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The complaints about apache2 amount to complaints about its license and
the fact that many addon developers refuse to support it (also because
of the license).  Functionality wise it is fine.

BTW, Gentoo has already gone to apache 2.2

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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Dave Hudson wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:09:03 -0400
> From: Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net>
> To: 'Central Florida Geeks' <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
> 
> DAMN IT!
>
> You guys are going to kick me out of the group if i keep this up......
>
> It was the routing... i forgot to set the default gateway and it had
> defaulted to 192.168.1.0.....
>
> Sorry Apache2 for the unfair bashing.....
>
> Its working now :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Korb [mailto:kmk at sanitarium.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:59 PM
> To: Central Florida Geeks
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
>
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> To check your default route run:
> ip ro show
>
> If you are running some lame distro that hasn't switched to iproute2 yet
> run:
> route -n
>
> - --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
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> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Dave Hudson wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:55:54 -0400
>> From: Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net>
>> To: 'Central Florida Geeks' <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
>>
>> Unfortunately, i'm not following you on either one.....
>>
>> I am not using NVH.
>>
>> What do you mean about "default route"???????
>>
>> This is really freakin annoying as I never had this problem with
> Apache....
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:18 PM
>> To: Central Florida Geeks
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Apache2 Question
>>
>> In addition to what Kevin said (default route) ...  are you using IP
>> and not NameVirtualHost? Do you get the wrong page or a time out from
>> outside the router? Check your apache log for errors or access. If you
>> using NVH the name has to match for it to get the correct site even if
>> the IP works. On my WRT54G I sometimes have to power cycle it when I
>> change forwards to a new host or port (Linksys firmware).
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Dave Hudson <cfg at davehudson.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an apache2 question (running on Suse Linux).
>>>
>>> I have a site that I can hit internally - i.e.:
>>>
>>> http://192.168.1.144:8080/test
>>>
>>> I have my router set to port forward external traffic from
>>> external:8080 to 192.168.1.144:8080
>>>
>>> I can hit the server and pages are served up internally i.e. if i go
>>> to it from a computer inside my LAN.
>>>
>>> If I change the port forwarding to a different machine (i.e.
>>> 192.168.1.148 with port 8080) it works just fine and brings up that
>> server.
>>>
>>> I shut off the firewall on the Suse box, so that's not it.........
>>>
>>> I'm scratching my head as to why its not working.......
>>>
>>> Any new items in Apache2 that would cause it to block external??
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>  cfgeeks mailing list
>>>  cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>  http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N
>> by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
>> Skype: ke3vin
>> "Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
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From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Apr  1 22:16:40 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 22:16:40 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Nationwide iPhone shortage reported
Message-ID: <7E3F3D69-F1C6-429E-9FA0-6692A20B40DB@comcast.net>

http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9908322-37.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=OneMoreThing

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Apr  1 22:38:29 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 22:38:29 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Woopra
Message-ID: <1243F658-4CE2-4932-8939-B9423882C3C3@comcast.net>

http://woopra.com

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Apr  1 23:04:49 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 23:04:49 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Sprint Uses 'Instinct' To Compete With iPhone
Message-ID: <29B3F26F-7CF5-44CD-8892-DA25A2678E52@comcast.net>

I feel sorry with Samsung. Their biggest mistake is using Sprint. I'm  
pretty sure this will be worst than Verizon's miserable failure with  
the Voyager.

http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207001113

Albert Pratts
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From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Apr  1 23:10:17 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 23:10:17 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Security Showdown: OS X Caves First,
	Vista Buckles (Due To Flash), Ubuntu Wins
Message-ID: <E2BC76CF-74AE-4E91-BC6A-990F428BFF74@comcast.net>

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/03/security_showdo.html

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From kevin at inscoe.org  Wed Apr  2 07:08:27 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:08:27 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] We have 811 now?
Message-ID: <47F3692B.1030002@inscoe.org>

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Are there any *11's left unused?

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-01-2008/0004784645&EDATE=

- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From cfg at davehudson.net  Wed Apr  2 07:17:05 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 07:17:05 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Woopra
In-Reply-To: <1243F658-4CE2-4932-8939-B9423882C3C3@comcast.net>
References: <1243F658-4CE2-4932-8939-B9423882C3C3@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003001c894b3$1551fa50$2201a8c0@davehp64>

Interesting.... I see more and more of these where companies/website are
violating rule 101 of marketing and websites..... they put up "coming soon"
sites.
 
Same thing as DropBox..... It ends up hurting them in the end when they hype
their product and when you want it it is just vapor ware.........
 
 

  _____  

From: Albert Pratts [mailto:apratts at comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:38 PM
To: Central Florida Geeks
Subject: [cfgeeks] Woopra


http://woopra.com

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From apratts at comcast.net  Wed Apr  2 09:20:24 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:20:24 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Woopra
In-Reply-To: <003001c894b3$1551fa50$2201a8c0@davehp64>
References: <1243F658-4CE2-4932-8939-B9423882C3C3@comcast.net>
	<003001c894b3$1551fa50$2201a8c0@davehp64>
Message-ID: <A40FC836-CC6F-45FA-9CC5-9C05C26895B0@comcast.net>

Woopra has a waiting list....

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



On Apr 2, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Dave Hudson wrote:

> Interesting.... I see more and more of these where companies/website  
> are violating rule 101 of marketing and websites..... they put up  
> "coming soon" sites.
>
> Same thing as DropBox..... It ends up hurting them in the end when  
> they hype their product and when you want it it is just vapor  
> ware.........
>
>
>
> From: Albert Pratts [mailto:apratts at comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:38 PM
> To: Central Florida Geeks
> Subject: [cfgeeks] Woopra
>
> http://woopra.com
>
> Albert Pratts
> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks

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From john at mayson.us  Wed Apr  2 09:20:24 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:20:24 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] We have 811 now?
In-Reply-To: <47F3692B.1030002@inscoe.org>
References: <47F3692B.1030002@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <47F38818.3040205@mayson.us>

Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:
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> Are there any *11's left unused?
> 
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-01-2008/0004784645&EDATE=

111 I suppose.  :-)

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From syberghost at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 09:42:37 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:42:37 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [Daily Illuminator] Wanted: Perl Coder]
Message-ID: <1207143757.20613.2.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

Attention John:

-------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: webmaster at sjgames.com
> To: illuminator at sjgames.com
> Subject: [Daily Illuminator] Wanted: Perl Coder
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:00:07 -0500
> 
> 
> Steve Jackson Games is looking for an experienced Perl coder to work
> on various projects, including our online storefront, our in-house
> databases, and online games such as the almost-complete UltraCorps
> ( http://ultracorps.sjgames.com/ ) . All these projects involve OO
> Perl, mod_perl, Mason, and MySQL.
> 
> This work could range from full-time to (for less-urgent projects) as
> little as ten hours a week. We would love to find someone in Austin,
> but we are willing to work with telecommuters. We would certainly
> consider full-time employment, but we recognize that a contract
> relationship is likelier.
> 
> Please respond to perljob at sjgames.com with a current resume and
> relevant samples of your code.

-- 

   Shawn McMahon    |
   EIV Consulting   | in larido veritas
 http://www.eiv.com |
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From john at mayson.us  Wed Apr  2 09:44:44 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 08:44:44 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [Daily Illuminator] Wanted: Perl Coder]
In-Reply-To: <1207143757.20613.2.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
References: <1207143757.20613.2.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804020644w448a3761x438ae346f72c523f@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Shawn McMahon <syberghost at gmail.com> wrote:
> Attention John:

Yeah, I'm all over it.

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From kevin at inscoe.org  Wed Apr  2 09:46:00 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:46:00 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] We have 811 now?
In-Reply-To: <47F38818.3040205@mayson.us>
References: <47F3692B.1030002@inscoe.org> <47F38818.3040205@mayson.us>
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804020646y450dd89ej403f894cf630f37f@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:20 AM, John Mayson <john at mayson.us> wrote:
> Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:

>  > Are there any *11's left unused?
>  >
>  > http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-01-2008/0004784645&EDATE=
>
>  111 I suppose.  :-)

Never! :-)

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=72

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From docx at io.com  Wed Apr  2 10:24:56 2008
From: docx at io.com (Dylan Northrup)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:24:56 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [Daily Illuminator] Wanted: Perl Coder]
In-Reply-To: <6645152a0804020644w448a3761x438ae346f72c523f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1207143757.20613.2.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
	<6645152a0804020644w448a3761x438ae346f72c523f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080402092401.N72594@eris.io.com>

A long time ago, (02.04.08), in a galaxy far, far away, John Mayson wrote:

:=On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Shawn McMahon <syberghost at gmail.com> wrote:
:=> Attention John:
:=
:=Yeah, I'm all over it.

I dropped a line as well.  While I'm hoping my 'io.com' address holds a
little sway, I doubt it will.  On the upside, if I am able to get some
contract coding work, it might force me to cut back on WoW.

-- 
Dylan Northrup - docx at io.com - http://www.io.com/~docx/
"Harder to work, harder to strive, hard to be glad to be alive, but it's
 really worth it if you give it a try." -- Cowboy Mouth, 'Easy'

From john at mayson.us  Wed Apr  2 10:32:26 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:32:26 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [Daily Illuminator] Wanted: Perl Coder]
In-Reply-To: <20080402092401.N72594@eris.io.com>
References: <1207143757.20613.2.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
	<6645152a0804020644w448a3761x438ae346f72c523f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080402092401.N72594@eris.io.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804020732q7b1c4cf0w3fa4206814e83355@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/2/08, Dylan Northrup <docx at io.com> wrote:
> A long time ago, (02.04.08), in a galaxy far, far away, John Mayson wrote:
>
> :=On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Shawn McMahon <syberghost at gmail.com> wrote:
> :=> Attention John:
> :=
> :=Yeah, I'm all over it.
>
> I dropped a line as well.  While I'm hoping my 'io.com' address holds a
> little sway, I doubt it will.  On the upside, if I am able to get some
> contract coding work, it might force me to cut back on WoW.

I was being facetious.  :-)  I know enough Perl to get by, but calling
me a programmer is like Oprah an attractive woman.

Are you in Austin or Houston given your io.com addy?

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From john at mayson.us  Wed Apr  2 10:45:09 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:45:09 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
Message-ID: <6645152a0804020745p72d9f02ekf6b00040fc9e43fc@mail.gmail.com>

I just went into my Spam folder.  Pretty much everything Karen, Steve,
and Dave Hudson have sent in recent days has gone there.

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From docx at io.com  Wed Apr  2 13:03:46 2008
From: docx at io.com (Dylan Northrup)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:03:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [Daily Illuminator] Wanted: Perl Coder]
In-Reply-To: <6645152a0804020732q7b1c4cf0w3fa4206814e83355@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1207143757.20613.2.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
	<6645152a0804020644w448a3761x438ae346f72c523f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080402092401.N72594@eris.io.com>
	<6645152a0804020732q7b1c4cf0w3fa4206814e83355@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080402115906.W72594@eris.io.com>

A long time ago, (02.04.08), in a galaxy far, far away, John Mayson wrote:

:=I was being facetious.  :-)  I know enough Perl to get by, but calling
:=me a programmer is like Oprah an attractive woman.

Some guys are into the BBWs (or, in Oprah's case, BBBWs).  But, on topic,
I've done a lot of perl for a long time.  No real applications (other than
my home brewed stuff), but I'm confident enough to at least see if they call
back.  We'll see.

:=Are you in Austin or Houston given your io.com addy?

I'm actually in Atlanta.  I've had my io.com address for many, many years.
It's only an 'ssh' account, not an access account.  Given the number of
times I've moved, the unreliability of having a proper network connection at
times and my cheapness for going out and spending money on something
reliable like colo space or a virtual server, having an ssh account has
worked out pretty well for me while I've been an IO (now PrismNet) customer.

-- 
Dylan Northrup - docx at io.com - http://www.io.com/~docx/
"Harder to work, harder to strive, hard to be glad to be alive, but it's
 really worth it if you give it a try." -- Cowboy Mouth, 'Easy'

From kevin at inscoe.org  Wed Apr  2 13:16:06 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:16:06 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Batgirl the lost tape
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804021016j77fa39aoc2cbc762e91490ce@mail.gmail.com>

http://retrotv1.blogspot.com/2008/03/unaired-batgirl-tv-series-pilot.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLQM8NKrHuw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Star_Trek)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Craig

Not to be confused with the *other* green Yvonne chick Yvonne De Carlo
(from the Munsters)

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From john at mayson.us  Wed Apr  2 13:25:48 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:25:48 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [Daily Illuminator] Wanted: Perl Coder]
In-Reply-To: <20080402115906.W72594@eris.io.com>
References: <1207143757.20613.2.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
	<6645152a0804020644w448a3761x438ae346f72c523f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080402092401.N72594@eris.io.com>
	<6645152a0804020732q7b1c4cf0w3fa4206814e83355@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080402115906.W72594@eris.io.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804021025p25990ab1l2180846d1b53b4d7@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Dylan Northrup <docx at io.com> wrote:
> A long time ago, (02.04.08), in a galaxy far, far away, John Mayson wrote:
>
>  :=I was being facetious.  :-)  I know enough Perl to get by, but calling
>
> :=me a programmer is like Oprah an attractive woman.
>
>  Some guys are into the BBWs (or, in Oprah's case, BBBWs).  But, on topic,
>  I've done a lot of perl for a long time.  No real applications (other than
>  my home brewed stuff), but I'm confident enough to at least see if they call
>  back.  We'll see.

I'm not into Oprah and only know enough Perl to get me into trouble.  :-)

>
>  :=Are you in Austin or Houston given your io.com addy?
>
>  I'm actually in Atlanta.  I've had my io.com address for many, many years.
>  It's only an 'ssh' account, not an access account.  Given the number of
>  times I've moved, the unreliability of having a proper network connection at
>  times and my cheapness for going out and spending money on something
>  reliable like colo space or a virtual server, having an ssh account has
>  worked out pretty well for me while I've been an IO (now PrismNet) customer.

I've lived in Atlanta too.  :-)

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Wed Apr  2 13:52:11 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:52:11 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
In-Reply-To: <6645152a0804020745p72d9f02ekf6b00040fc9e43fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6645152a0804020745p72d9f02ekf6b00040fc9e43fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200804021352.11761.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

On Wednesday 02 April 2008 10:45, John Mayson wrote:
> I just went into my Spam folder.  Pretty much everything Karen, Steve,
> and Dave Hudson have sent in recent days has gone there.

Let's test its Republicanism. I'm extremely disappointed Huckabee isn't the 
nominee. Obama has no experience. Hillary killed Vince Foster. Neal Boortz is 
the man. If you don't have health insurance, it's your fault. If your tech 
job got emailed off to India, retrain as a corporate lawyer. Not an ambulance 
chaser -- we're implementing tort reform. We're bringing Democracy to Iraq, 
and will be for the next hundred years.

There, that should get through!

SteveT

From john at mayson.us  Wed Apr  2 13:52:50 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:52:50 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
In-Reply-To: <200804021352.11761.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <6645152a0804020745p72d9f02ekf6b00040fc9e43fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<200804021352.11761.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804021052k6157204fue2efca42ba13f22d@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 April 2008 10:45, John Mayson wrote:
>  > I just went into my Spam folder.  Pretty much everything Karen, Steve,
>  > and Dave Hudson have sent in recent days has gone there.
>
>  Let's test its Republicanism. I'm extremely disappointed Huckabee isn't the
>  nominee. Obama has no experience. Hillary killed Vince Foster. Neal Boortz is
>  the man. If you don't have health insurance, it's your fault. If your tech
>  job got emailed off to India, retrain as a corporate lawyer. Not an ambulance
>  chaser -- we're implementing tort reform. We're bringing Democracy to Iraq,
>  and will be for the next hundred years.
>
>  There, that should get through!

Amazing!  :-O

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  2 16:45:39 2008
From: cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com (Karen Hill)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
Message-ID: <520684.51789.qm@web44904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Don't feel bad....95% of ALL cfgeeks_mail goes straight to my Spam folder on my Yahoo account....  



----- Original Message ----
From: John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:45:09 AM
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican

I just went into my Spam folder.  Pretty much everything Karen, Steve,
and Dave Hudson have sent in recent days has gone there.

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From john at mayson.us  Wed Apr  2 16:51:34 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:51:34 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
In-Reply-To: <520684.51789.qm@web44904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <520684.51789.qm@web44904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804021351q113f19b6t3a5a4322ffcf27dc@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Karen Hill <cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Don't feel bad....95% of ALL cfgeeks_mail goes straight to my Spam folder on
> my Yahoo account....

That's one reason I don't use Yahoo! mail.  My Inbox was always full
of spam, but my spam folder was full of legit email.  That and weirdos
IM me on that account.

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  2 16:48:49 2008
From: cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com (Karen Hill)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:48:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
Message-ID: <128028.87252.qm@web44911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

----- Original Message ----
From: John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
>  To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>  Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:52:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican

>  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
>  > On Wednesday 02 April 2008 10:45, John Mayson wrote:
>  >  > I just went into my Spam folder.  Pretty much everything Karen, Steve,
>  >  > and Dave Hudson have sent in recent days has gone there.
>  >
>  >  Let's test its Republicanism. I'm extremely disappointed Huckabee isn't the
>  >  nominee. Obama has no experience. Hillary killed Vince Foster. Neal Boortz is
>  >  the man. If you don't have health insurance, it's your fault. If your tech
>  >  job got emailed off to India, retrain as a corporate lawyer. Not an ambulance
>  >  chaser -- we're implementing tort reform. We're bringing Democracy to Iraq,
>  >  and will be for the next hundred years.
>  >
>  >  There, that should get through!

>  Amazing!  :-O

>  -- 
>  John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
>  Austin, Texas, USA


Ah...so now that explains why even MY emails are going straight to the spam folder on my Yahoo account!


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From apratts at comcast.net  Wed Apr  2 17:39:34 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:39:34 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
In-Reply-To: <6645152a0804021351q113f19b6t3a5a4322ffcf27dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <520684.51789.qm@web44904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<6645152a0804021351q113f19b6t3a5a4322ffcf27dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1362DB70-111E-4942-B6B1-17C49434C341@comcast.net>

That's hilarious. But true.

Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:51 PM, "John Mayson" <john at mayson.us> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Karen Hill <cfgeeks_karen at yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>>
>> Don't feel bad....95% of ALL cfgeeks_mail goes straight to my Spam  
>> folder on
>> my Yahoo account....
>
> That's one reason I don't use Yahoo! mail.  My Inbox was always full
> of spam, but my spam folder was full of legit email.  That and weirdos
> IM me on that account.
>
> -- 
> John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
> Austin, Texas, USA
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks

From kevin at inscoe.org  Wed Apr  2 19:38:31 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:38:31 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
In-Reply-To: <200804021352.11761.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <6645152a0804020745p72d9f02ekf6b00040fc9e43fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<200804021352.11761.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804021638v1a34c8d8obe2ac8d02c4c271c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 April 2008 10:45, John Mayson wrote:
>  > I just went into my Spam folder.  Pretty much everything Karen, Steve,
>  > and Dave Hudson have sent in recent days has gone there.
>
>  Let's test its Republicanism. I'm extremely disappointed Huckabee isn't the
>  nominee. Obama has no experience. Hillary killed Vince Foster. Neal Boortz is
>  the man. If you don't have health insurance, it's your fault. If your tech
>  job got emailed off to India, retrain as a corporate lawyer. Not an ambulance
>  chaser -- we're implementing tort reform. We're bringing Democracy to Iraq,
>  and will be for the next hundred years.

You forgot eliminating socila security and feeding tuna tins to old people.

>  There, that should get through!

No because now your modded for once again POSTING TO THE WRONG LIST!

>
>  SteveT

:-)

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Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From syberghost at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 20:10:42 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:10:42 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] GMail is Republican
In-Reply-To: <520684.51789.qm@web44904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <520684.51789.qm@web44904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1207181442.5811.0.camel@paragon>

On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 13:45 -0700, Karen Hill wrote:
> Don't feel bad....95% of ALL cfgeeks_mail goes straight to my Spam
> folder on my Yahoo account....  

Your spam folder must be a Democrat; it clearly feels an inappropriate
sense of entitlement.  ;)



From cfg at davehudson.net  Wed Apr  2 20:31:16 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:31:16 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] 2008 IT Salary Report
Message-ID: <000601c89522$07d62300$2201a8c0@davehp64>


http://images.globalknowledge.com/wwwimages/pdfs/2008_SalaryReport.pdf


From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Wed Apr  2 22:45:21 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 22:45:21 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] See, Microsoft is innovative...
Message-ID: <51F3A170-3BD0-4E73-964D-E316784F2EBC@cfl.rr.com>

They have re-defined the..... uhhh.... table.....

http://tinyurl.com/29lmw9



From jonnylee_in_florida at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  2 18:51:10 2008
From: jonnylee_in_florida at yahoo.com (Jonathan Squires)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:51:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] This Stuff is Scary
Message-ID: <592042.18588.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZiw3qVdFzw  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9cqtJTvF4&NR=1




  



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From kevin at inscoe.org  Thu Apr  3 08:12:26 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:12:26 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Karen and maybe Syberghost thing...
Message-ID: <47F4C9AA.6050108@inscoe.org>

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Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Thu Apr  3 08:13:17 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 08:13:17 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [openssh-unix-announce] Announce: OpenSSH 5.0
	released]
Message-ID: <47F4C9DD.6030905@inscoe.org>

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- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: [openssh-unix-announce] Announce: OpenSSH 5.0 released
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 04:48:30 -0600 (MDT)
From: Damien Miller <djm at cvs.openbsd.org>
To: openssh-unix-announce at mindrot.org

OpenSSH 5.0 has just been released. It will be available from the
mirrors listed at http://www.openssh.com/ shortly.

We apologise for any inconvenience resulting from this release
being made so shortly after 4.9. Unfortunately we only learned of
the below security issue from the public CVE report. The Debian
OpenSSH maintainers responsible for handling the initial report of
this bug failed to report it via either the private OpenSSH security
contact list (openssh at openssh.com) or the portable OpenSSH Bugzilla
(http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/).

We ask anyone wishing to report security bugs in OpenSSH to please use
the openssh at openssh.com contact and to practice responsible disclosure.

OpenSSH is a 100% complete SSH protocol version 1.3, 1.5 and 2.0
implementation and includes sftp client and server support.

Once again, we would like to thank the OpenSSH community for their
continued support of the project, especially those who contributed
code or patches, reported bugs, tested snapshots and purchased
T-shirts or posters.

T-shirt, poster and CD sales directly support the project. Pictures
and more information can be found at:
~        http://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html and
	http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html

For international orders use http://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order
and for European orders, use http://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order.eu

Changes since OpenSSH 4.9:
============================

Security:

~ * CVE-2008-1483: Avoid possible hijacking of X11-forwarded connections
~   by refusing to listen on a port unless all address families bind
~   successfully.

Checksums:
==========

~ - SHA1 (openssh-5.0.tar.gz) = 729fb3168edf6a68408223b5ed82e59d13b57c47
~ - SHA1 (openssh-5.0p1.tar.gz) = 121cea3a730c0b0353334b6f46f438de30ab4928

Reporting Bugs:
===============

- - please read http://www.openssh.com/report.html
~  and http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/

OpenSSH is brought to you by Markus Friedl, Niels Provos, Theo de Raadt,
Kevin Steves, Damien Miller, Darren Tucker, Jason McIntyre, Tim Rice and
Ben Lindstrom.

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From syberghost at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 09:15:54 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:15:54 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Karen and maybe Syberghost thing...
In-Reply-To: <47F4C9AA.6050108@inscoe.org>
References: <47F4C9AA.6050108@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <1207228554.26090.3.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 08:12 -0400, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> http://mytheum.blogspot.com/

The Wampus Cat thing isn't just Eastern Tennessee; Atoka High School,
not far from my home town in Oklahoma, has the Wampus Cat as their
mascot, as do several other schools in the South.


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From syberghost at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 09:27:25 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:27:25 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [openssh-unix-announce] Announce: OpenSSH
	5.0	released]
In-Reply-To: <47F4C9DD.6030905@inscoe.org>
References: <47F4C9DD.6030905@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <1207229245.26090.10.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 08:13 -0400, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:
>
> - -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [openssh-unix-announce] Announce: OpenSSH 5.0 released
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 04:48:30 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Damien Miller <djm at cvs.openbsd.org>
> To: openssh-unix-announce at mindrot.org
> 
> being made so shortly after 4.9. Unfortunately we only learned of
> the below security issue from the public CVE report. The Debian
> OpenSSH maintainers responsible for handling the initial report of
> this bug failed to report it via either the private OpenSSH security
> contact list (openssh at openssh.com) or the portable OpenSSH Bugzilla
> (http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/).
> 
> We ask anyone wishing to report security bugs in OpenSSH to please use
> the openssh at openssh.com contact and to practice responsible disclosure.

Waah, waah, waah.  Instead of whining that Debian didn't share right,
they should have found the damn bug themselves.  I've more than once
seen OpenBSD find a bug, not tell anybody until they issue the patch,
and then casually comment that it probably affects other BSDs too.

I'd be interested to see how Debian DID report it; it doesn't seem
likely they didn't do so at all, and some of this working kind of
implies they did, but didn't do it "right".


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From kevin at inscoe.org  Thu Apr  3 12:18:40 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:18:40 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] A Visual Guide to 700 MHz
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804030918n2bcb4bbem61bf6c6d6f548048@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=187&p=229

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"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From syberghost at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 13:54:46 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:54:46 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Heh
Message-ID: <1207245286.26090.14.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

loopback.girlscouts-hawaii.org


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From apratts at comcast.net  Thu Apr  3 20:15:11 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:15:11 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Trademark Dispute Pits Apple vs. The Big Apple
Message-ID: <769600C9-E56C-48EA-8859-A7BAAE5D004A@comcast.net>

I guess they can do it too...

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/news/2008/04/apple_vs_apple

Albert
Sent from my iPhone

From syberghost at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 09:35:16 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:35:16 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Exactly how crazy are you?
Message-ID: <1207316116.30815.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

http://www.cthulhulives.org/SanQuiz/SaniTest1.html

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From john at mayson.us  Fri Apr  4 09:53:02 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:53:02 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] Exactly how crazy are you?
In-Reply-To: <1207316116.30815.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
References: <1207316116.30815.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804040653q6877c8e0ye060f340d5044963@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Shawn McMahon <syberghost at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.cthulhulives.org/SanQuiz/SaniTest1.html

Yeah, like I need a quiz!

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 10:38:53 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:38:53 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fwd: Does someone know C developer in Unix environment?
In-Reply-To: <949368934.1207319287327.JavaMail.app@com06.prod>
References: <949368934.1207319287327.JavaMail.app@com06.prod>
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804040738h78d34df6t253ad6e867c5e007@mail.gmail.com>

I personally think that's a little low but...


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Roman Soboliev - LION romans at teaminfo.com <romans at teaminfo.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Subject: Does someone know C developer in Unix environment?
To: Kevin Inscoe




 Roman Soboliev - LION romans at teaminfo.com wrote:

 Does someone know C developer in Unix environment?

 Hello,

 Does someone know C developer in Unix environment? It's a direct hire
(permanent) position in Tampa. Target salary range is 70K per year.
Client is willing to relocate perfect candidate.
 Appreciate you help!

 Best regards,
 Roman

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kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From syberghost at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 10:41:52 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:41:52 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fwd: Does someone know C developer in
	Unix	environment?
In-Reply-To: <e8ce78c90804040738h78d34df6t253ad6e867c5e007@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 10:38 -0400, Kevin Inscoe wrote:
> I personally think that's a little low but...

I think it's about average for the area, IIR the salary survey from
earlier this week.


-- 

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   EIV Consulting   | in larido veritas
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From docx at io.com  Fri Apr  4 10:42:33 2008
From: docx at io.com (Dylan Northrup)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:42:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fwd: Does someone know C developer in Unix
	environment?
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C in Unix goes for mid-80s around Atlanta.  Looking at various salary
calculators, that works out to low-80s in Tampa.  Then again, you get what 
you pay for and I remember when I'd have been overjoyed to make 70k when I
was living in Tampa.

A long time ago, (04.04.08), in a galaxy far, far away, Kevin Inscoe wrote:

:=I personally think that's a little low but...
:=
:=
:=---------- Forwarded message ----------
:=From: Roman Soboliev - LION romans at teaminfo.com <romans at teaminfo.com>
:=Date: Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:28 AM
:=Subject: Does someone know C developer in Unix environment?
:=To: Kevin Inscoe
:=
:=
:=
:=
:= Roman Soboliev - LION romans at teaminfo.com wrote:
:=
:= Does someone know C developer in Unix environment?
:=
:= Hello,
:=
:= Does someone know C developer in Unix environment? It's a direct hire
:=(permanent) position in Tampa. Target salary range is 70K per year.
:=Client is willing to relocate perfect candidate.
:= Appreciate you help!
:=
:= Best regards,
:= Roman
:=
:=

-- 
Dylan Northrup - docx at io.com - http://www.io.com/~docx/
"Harder to work, harder to strive, hard to be glad to be alive, but it's
 really worth it if you give it a try." -- Cowboy Mouth, 'Easy'

From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 10:52:52 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 10:52:52 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fwd: Does someone know C developer in Unix
	environment?
In-Reply-To: <1207320112.30815.6.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
References: <949368934.1207319287327.JavaMail.app@com06.prod>
	<e8ce78c90804040738h78d34df6t253ad6e867c5e007@mail.gmail.com>
	<1207320112.30815.6.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804040752i3c7231c6rc031be06b50d3559@mail.gmail.com>

That seems odd to me because I know Java developers pulling in well
above that. I cannot believe a truly seasoned C (which they are asking
for) programmer (notice I didn't say "coder" or "analyst") should pull
even more. A) They are much harder to find B) C programming requires
much skill (please no Java vs C flame wars) and D) (yes being funny)
they are very hard to find. Oh and E) If they know C very likely they
are doing quality work else where like GNU stuff. Bu then again the
salary "surveys" constantly surprise me. If those results are really
true then a number of us are un-re-employable I suspect. But then
again insert my stdrant about class pricing of skilled workers rather
than individual merit (but that's just the Individualist in me).

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Shawn McMahon <syberghost at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 10:38 -0400, Kevin Inscoe wrote:
>  > I personally think that's a little low but...
>
>  I think it's about average for the area, IIR the salary survey from
>  earlier this week.
>
>
>  --
>
>    Shawn McMahon    |
>    EIV Consulting   | in larido veritas
>   http://www.eiv.com |
>
> _______________________________________________
>  cfgeeks mailing list
>  cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>  http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
>



-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 11:03:06 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:03:06 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Femtocells: More sign of the coming cable apocalypse...
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804040803p4f569336i8acf9732977b978b@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.dailytech.com/Verizon+to+Launch+Femtocells+in+2008/article11365.htm

First rules:

Lawyers: Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.

Telecom: Never deploy a network which could provide the backbone that
competes with your own product.

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 11:10:52 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:10:52 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] April 4,
	1975 Bill Gates become "oh carp am I gonna get rich!" aware
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804040810p20854bc0t8000543ea126c9f4@mail.gmail.com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_8800#Altair_BASIC

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 12:03:03 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:03:03 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Todays fun word: Church Key
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804040903k163bb98bw5531fa4322ec8562@mail.gmail.com>

I find it humorous that once upon a time religious folks were the
keepers of ale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchkey

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 14:30:49 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:30:49 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Happy Birthday Derek K.!
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804041130vb0ec136pc9e9607d0e2f8b58@mail.gmail.com>

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From apratts at comcast.net  Fri Apr  4 14:55:19 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:55:19 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] IAKMKT
Message-ID: <CA8F5628-A275-4CC4-A873-BBD6BF27EA0E@comcast.net>

I know, I know.... ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/technology/04phone.html?em&ex=1207454400&en=dbcf856fbea14728&ei=5087%0A

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Fri Apr  4 15:01:50 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gil Young)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:01:50 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Exactly how crazy are you?
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John takes the test...

Question 1:  NAME:  Jphn Mayson

Question 2: LOCATION: Austin, Texas

Tank you for taking the quiz, you are on file as100% a55hat insane.


On Apr 4, 2008, at 9:53 AM, John Mayson wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Shawn McMahon <syberghost at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> http://www.cthulhulives.org/SanQuiz/SaniTest1.html
>
> Yeah, like I need a quiz!
>
> -- 
> John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
> Austin, Texas, USA
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 16:44:57 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:44:57 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Hot fresh game reviews by my son
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804041344x33cd554ej40fd212ce881f528@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.steponepro.com/GamersEdge

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From kevin at inscoe.org  Fri Apr  4 17:25:15 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:25:15 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fun places in Orlando that are now extinct
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90804041425k50fcb0c6g9aa16b88c9d491ce@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.yelp.com/topic/orlando-weird-fun-places-in-the-orlando-area-that-are-extinct

I remember Infinite Mushroom and Wunderbar.

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Fri Apr  4 17:46:58 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gil Young)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:46:58 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fwd: Does someone know C developer in Unix
	environment?
In-Reply-To: <e8ce78c90804040752i3c7231c6rc031be06b50d3559@mail.gmail.com>
References: <949368934.1207319287327.JavaMail.app@com06.prod>
	<e8ce78c90804040738h78d34df6t253ad6e867c5e007@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree with you 100%, but IMHO the people that have time to take part  
in the surveys perhaps have too much time on their hands anyhoo?


On Apr 4, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Kevin Inscoe wrote:

> That seems odd to me because I know Java developers pulling in well
> above that. I cannot believe a truly seasoned C (which they are asking
> for) programmer (notice I didn't say "coder" or "analyst") should pull
> even more. A) They are much harder to find B) C programming requires
> much skill (please no Java vs C flame wars) and D) (yes being funny)
> they are very hard to find. Oh and E) If they know C very likely they
> are doing quality work else where like GNU stuff. Bu then again the
> salary "surveys" constantly surprise me. If those results are really
> true then a number of us are un-re-employable I suspect. But then
> again insert my stdrant about class pricing of skilled workers rather
> than individual merit (but that's just the Individualist in me).
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Shawn McMahon  
> <syberghost at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 10:38 -0400, Kevin Inscoe wrote:
>>> I personally think that's a little low but...
>>
>> I think it's about average for the area, IIR the salary survey from
>> earlier this week.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>   Shawn McMahon    |
>>   EIV Consulting   | in larido veritas
>>  http://www.eiv.com |
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
> Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
> Skype: ke3vin
> "Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
> Clark Powell
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Fri Apr  4 18:38:16 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gil Young)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:38:16 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fun places in Orlando that are now extinct
In-Reply-To: <e8ce78c90804041425k50fcb0c6g9aa16b88c9d491ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e8ce78c90804041425k50fcb0c6g9aa16b88c9d491ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6528BC70-7B40-4E31-8BAF-984C565F35AE@cfl.rr.com>


On Apr 4, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Kevin Inscoe wrote:

> http://www.yelp.com/topic/orlando-weird-fun-places-in-the-orlando-area-that-are-extinct
>
> I remember Infinite Mushroom and Wunderbar.


Hey I didn't know they had a sex toy room!

And IIRC Xanadu is no longer standing, but i'm not sure, I couldn't  
spot it last I drove by about 1 month ago.

OK mine is Off The Wall, and their nuts and bolts night :).


Also what about JJ whispers, or is that still around?

Went to ri-mar about a dozen times, it was really cool.

AHA I forgot the name, but was trying to remember it, it was THe  
Bubble Room!  They used to buy pasta from my familys pasta store.

Restaurant next to enzians was The Mason Jar IIRC (yep, again, pasta  
store)

I was at the Woolworth's a few times IIRC. 
  

From apratts at comcast.net  Fri Apr  4 20:04:43 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:04:43 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fun places in Orlando that are now extinct
In-Reply-To: <e8ce78c90804041425k50fcb0c6g9aa16b88c9d491ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e8ce78c90804041425k50fcb0c6g9aa16b88c9d491ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9BD98FF2-2885-4F16-A8E3-052769D36261@comcast.net>

Yeah, I remember the Maharaja Indian Restaurant and the Uniroyal girl  
in Ocoee/Winter Garden...

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/set/unigal.html

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



On Apr 4, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Kevin Inscoe wrote:

> http://www.yelp.com/topic/orlando-weird-fun-places-in-the-orlando-area-that-are-extinct
>
> I remember Infinite Mushroom and Wunderbar.
>
> -- 
> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
> Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
> Skype: ke3vin
> "Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
> Clark Powell
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From apratts at comcast.net  Fri Apr  4 20:41:46 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:41:46 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] My Sights
Message-ID: <72628CB2-8A89-402D-A104-28F6F5C40A4B@comcast.net>

Interesting...

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/geo/mysights.html

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From cfg at davehudson.net  Sat Apr  5 21:49:33 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:49:33 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] SeaGate 1TB Drive $199
Message-ID: <008801c89788$76e93300$2201a8c0@davehp64>

Finally broke the $200 barrier for a good quality 1TB drive:

http://www.frys.com/product/5478279


From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Apr  6 20:14:23 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:14:23 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] BTVU!!
Message-ID: <7FF84567-F6A6-4F0D-A3DA-44C174B282E2@cfl.rr.com>


Myvu.

Not yours.

http://www.myvu.com/



From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Apr  6 20:51:57 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:51:57 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
Message-ID: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

Hi all,

Why does a tsunami start with the water on the shoreline going OUT? How does 
the water at the shoreline know that a big wave is coming in?

SteveT

From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Apr  6 21:06:34 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:06:34 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Heston and his sci fi work...
Message-ID: <81AC441F-7AEE-4C0F-90F8-0D2A819D3D95@cfl.rr.com>

http://tinyurl.com/6alhes

My faves in this order:

Planet Of The Apes
Omega Man
Soylent Green


The last off an era, IMHO...

"Where is my Marlboro man
Where is his shiny gun
Where is my lonely ranger
Where have all the cowboys gone
Yippee aw, yippee yea
Yippee aw, yippee yea
Yippee aw, yippee yea"

Can't think of another real man tough guy, both on and off screen.

Can you?

From john at mayson.us  Sun Apr  6 21:11:00 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:11:00 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>  Why does a tsunami start with the water on the shoreline going OUT? How does
>  the water at the shoreline know that a big wave is coming in?

The same reason a bike can stop in 3 feet but a train can't.

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From john at mayson.us  Sun Apr  6 21:12:10 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:12:10 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] Heston and his sci fi work...
In-Reply-To: <81AC441F-7AEE-4C0F-90F8-0D2A819D3D95@cfl.rr.com>
References: <81AC441F-7AEE-4C0F-90F8-0D2A819D3D95@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804061812v6a8d700es8a140a6a39dbfc19@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Gilbert Young <gjyoung at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/6alhes

>  Can't think of another real man tough guy, both on and off screen.
>
>  Can you?

Fine.  Fine!  I get the hint!  I'll start acting tomorrow.

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Apr  6 21:22:55 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:22:55 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BFF3EFA4-A6D3-4119-9FE7-49BCA424BF13@cfl.rr.com>


On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:11 PM, John Mayson wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Steve Litt  
> <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Why does a tsunami start with the water on the shoreline going OUT?  
>> How does
>> the water at the shoreline know that a big wave is coming in?
>
> The same reason a bike can stop in 3 feet but a train can't.

Momentum, it's not just a good idea, it's a law.

From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Apr  6 21:23:29 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:23:29 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Heston and his sci fi work...
In-Reply-To: <6645152a0804061812v6a8d700es8a140a6a39dbfc19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81AC441F-7AEE-4C0F-90F8-0D2A819D3D95@cfl.rr.com>
	<6645152a0804061812v6a8d700es8a140a6a39dbfc19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46C13144-9E6B-4039-9C9F-B792B461B3B1@cfl.rr.com>


On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:12 PM, John Mayson wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Gilbert Young <gjyoung at cfl.rr.com>  
> wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/6alhes
>
>> Can't think of another real man tough guy, both on and off screen.
>>
>> Can you?
>
> Fine.  Fine!  I get the hint!  I'll start acting tomorrow.


I meant Acting, not acting out..... :O!

From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sun Apr  6 23:07:30 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:07:30 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <BFF3EFA4-A6D3-4119-9FE7-49BCA424BF13@cfl.rr.com>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BFF3EFA4-A6D3-4119-9FE7-49BCA424BF13@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <200804062307.31003.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

On Sunday 06 April 2008 21:22, Gilbert Young wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2008, at 9:11 PM, John Mayson wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Steve Litt
> >
> > <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Why does a tsunami start with the water on the shoreline going OUT?
> >> How does
> >> the water at the shoreline know that a big wave is coming in?
> >
> > The same reason a bike can stop in 3 feet but a train can't.
>
> Momentum, it's not just a good idea, it's a law.

Can you please elaborate on this? What about the momentum of a wave causes the 
water in its path to go toward it?

SteveT

From john at mayson.us  Sun Apr  6 23:13:11 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:13:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <200804062307.31003.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BFF3EFA4-A6D3-4119-9FE7-49BCA424BF13@cfl.rr.com>
	<200804062307.31003.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> Momentum, it's not just a good idea, it's a law.
>
> Can you please elaborate on this? What about the momentum of a wave causes the
> water in its path to go toward it?

Have you Googled for this at all?

Just thinking this through, here's what I'm thinking.  Out at sea, ships 
don't even feel tsunamis because they move so quickly and the water is so 
deep.  As the wave approached the continental shelf it "trips up" the wave 
causing it to rise.  I'm guessing the force of the water going up sucks up 
water from front and back causing the shallow water near shore to move out 
into the wave.

- -- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Sun Apr  6 23:16:38 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:16:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.10.0804062210400.532@john-maysons-ibook-g4.local>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BFF3EFA4-A6D3-4119-9FE7-49BCA424BF13@cfl.rr.com>
	<200804062307.31003.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<alpine.OSX.1.10.0804062210400.532@john-maysons-ibook-g4.local>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804062315510.22214@asylum.sanitarium.net>

His network connection is too slow to operate Google.  So when he has a
question he submits them in email and waits for a reply like the old
days of archie and veronica searches.

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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, John Mayson wrote:

> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:13:11 -0500 (CDT)
> From: John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
> 
> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Steve Litt wrote:
>>>
>>> Momentum, it's not just a good idea, it's a law.
>>
>> Can you please elaborate on this? What about the momentum of a wave causes the
>> water in its path to go toward it?
>
> Have you Googled for this at all?
>
> Just thinking this through, here's what I'm thinking.  Out at sea, ships
> don't even feel tsunamis because they move so quickly and the water is so
> deep.  As the wave approached the continental shelf it "trips up" the wave
> causing it to rise.  I'm guessing the force of the water going up sucks up
> water from front and back causing the shallow water near shore to move out
> into the wave.
>
> --
> John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
> Austin, Texas, USA
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
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> gpg:                 aka "Mayson, John <jmayson at austin.rr.com>"
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> gpg:                 aka "Mayson, John (Work address) <JohnMayson at tx.slr.com>"
> gpg:                 aka "Mayson, John (Work address) <JohnMayson at solectron.com>"
>
>

From john at mayson.us  Sun Apr  6 23:25:20 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:25:20 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804062315510.22214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>
	<BFF3EFA4-A6D3-4119-9FE7-49BCA424BF13@cfl.rr.com>
	<200804062307.31003.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
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	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0804062315510.22214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804062025i21602448sa5c4b9e09f72b24f@mail.gmail.com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami

"In instances where the leading edge of the tsunami wave is the
trough, the sea will recede from the coast half of the wave's period
before the wave's arrival. If the slope of the coastal seabed is
shallow, this recession can exceed many hundreds of meters. People
unaware of the danger may remain at or near the shore out of
curiosity, or for collecting fish from the exposed seabed. During the
Indian Ocean tsunami of 26th December 2004, the sea withdrew and many
people then went onto the exposed sea bed to investigate. Pictures
taken show people on the normally submerged areas with the advancing
wave in the background. Most people who were on the beach were unable
to escape to high ground and died."

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From apratts at comcast.net  Sun Apr  6 23:49:14 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:49:14 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Killer Stress Burying Bloggers?
Message-ID: <8768F1C4-94F7-4678-96AB-817CFE9CF119@comcast.net>

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/04/killer-stress-b.html

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From apratts at comcast.net  Mon Apr  7 00:11:37 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 00:11:37 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Mr. and Mrs. Boring sue Google over Street View pics
Message-ID: <398D6068-78A1-44D8-9B22-9656855255FC@comcast.net>

Not too sure why this took so long...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/05/google_street_view_suit/

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From apratts at comcast.net  Mon Apr  7 00:15:04 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 00:15:04 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fight, Fight, Fight....
Message-ID: <D10DF29B-D11F-4933-A0AF-351F904CD58A@comcast.net>

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080405-us-air-force-cybering-with-china.html

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Apr  7 09:35:14 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:35:14 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <47FA2312.8080005@inscoe.org>

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Steve Litt wrote:
| Hi all,
|
| Why does a tsunami start with the water on the shoreline going OUT?
How does
| the water at the shoreline know that a big wave is coming in?

Well although God would enjoy suddenly creating more water to do the job
it's probably easier to just use what's already in the bowl.

- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Apr  7 09:37:06 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:37:06 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Why does a tsunami start with the water going OUT?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804062315510.22214@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <200804062051.57509.slitt@troubleshooters.com>	<6645152a0804061811s32f928cbs90859e15e040e00b@mail.gmail.com>	<BFF3EFA4-A6D3-4119-9FE7-49BCA424BF13@cfl.rr.com>	<200804062307.31003.slitt@troubleshooters.com>	<alpine.OSX.1.10.0804062210400.532@john-maysons-ibook-g4.local>
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Kevin Korb wrote:
| His network connection is too slow to operate Google.  So when he has a
| question he submits them in email and waits for a reply like the old
| days of archie and veronica searches.

Ahh then this is for you!

askkevin at kevininscoe.com

- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Apr  7 09:45:02 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:45:02 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Killer Stress Burying Bloggers?
In-Reply-To: <8768F1C4-94F7-4678-96AB-817CFE9CF119@comcast.net>
References: <8768F1C4-94F7-4678-96AB-817CFE9CF119@comcast.net>
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Blogging kills. No really!

http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/991207.html

Albert Pratts wrote:
| http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/04/killer-stress-b.html
|
| Albert Pratts
| Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
|
|
|
|
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Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From john at mayson.us  Mon Apr  7 10:00:06 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:00:06 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] Killer Stress Burying Bloggers?
In-Reply-To: <47FA255E.9070209@inscoe.org>
References: <8768F1C4-94F7-4678-96AB-817CFE9CF119@comcast.net>
	<47FA255E.9070209@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804070700s4246a22bwa61c4af11454b0fb@mail.gmail.com>

And the FKI is going to be the death of me.  :-P

BTW, X, how's it going in Pennsylvania?

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From syberghost at gmail.com  Mon Apr  7 10:32:51 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:32:51 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Mr. and Mrs. Boring sue Google over Street View pics
In-Reply-To: <398D6068-78A1-44D8-9B22-9656855255FC@comcast.net>
References: <398D6068-78A1-44D8-9B22-9656855255FC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1207578771.5875.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 00:11 -0400, Albert Pratts wrote:
> Not too sure why this took so long... 
> 
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/05/google_street_view_suit/

It's called a gate.  If you have one, people don't drive down your
really long driveway you're pretending is a private road.


-- 

   Shawn McMahon    |
   EIV Consulting   | in larido veritas
 http://www.eiv.com |
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Mon Apr  7 10:38:56 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:38:56 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Killer Stress Burying Bloggers?
In-Reply-To: <8768F1C4-94F7-4678-96AB-817CFE9CF119@comcast.net>
References: <8768F1C4-94F7-4678-96AB-817CFE9CF119@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1207579136.5875.4.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>

On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 23:49 -0400, Albert Pratts wrote:
> http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/04/killer-stress-b.html

Fake blogging already killed FKI once; he got better.


-- 

   Shawn McMahon    |
   EIV Consulting   | in larido veritas
 http://www.eiv.com |
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Apr  7 11:58:39 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:58:39 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Fwd: [orlando_pm_group] Re: Orlando Perl Mongers Monthly
	Meetings
In-Reply-To: <d5c0ba1f0804070727r73b3b3ddlf424acf634cd7237@mail.gmail.com>
References: <162353.78324.qm@web53010.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<d5c0ba1f0804070727r73b3b3ddlf424acf634cd7237@mail.gmail.com>
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Forwarded conversation
Subject: [orlando_pm_group] Orlando Perl Mongers Monthly Meetings
------------------------

From: *Todd Davenport* <todd.davenport at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:10 AM
To: buff3r at gmail.com, orlando-perl-mongers at googlegroups.com



Hi!

The Google Groups page says meetings are the first
Thursday of the month, but the orlandoperlmongers.org
website says its the second Tuesday.  Which is
correct?

Thanks,
Todd



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The meetings are the second Tuesday.  Will you be attending?

Aaron



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From cfg at davehudson.net  Mon Apr  7 17:17:58 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:17:58 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Mr. and Mrs. Boring sue Google over Street View pics
In-Reply-To: <1207578771.5875.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
References: <398D6068-78A1-44D8-9B22-9656855255FC@comcast.net>
	<1207578771.5875.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com>
Message-ID: <000501c898f4$dabe35c0$2201a8c0@davehp64>

Yeah Karen.... why didn't you sue first?!

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=37.09024,-95.712891&spn=47.
167389,92.8125&z=4&om=1&layer=c&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-googl
e-svn&utm_medium=ha

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn McMahon [mailto:syberghost at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:33 AM
To: Central Florida Geeks
Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Mr. and Mrs. Boring sue Google over Street View pics

On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 00:11 -0400, Albert Pratts wrote:
> Not too sure why this took so long... 
> 
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/05/google_street_view_suit/

It's called a gate.  If you have one, people don't drive down your really
long driveway you're pretending is a private road.


-- 

   Shawn McMahon    |
   EIV Consulting   | in larido veritas
 http://www.eiv.com |


From apratts at comcast.net  Mon Apr  7 23:09:19 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:09:19 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] OpenDNS
Message-ID: <E51E42ED-13D1-4219-8DF7-5B587355A9C3@comcast.net>

Anyone using OpenDNS?

http://www.opendns.com

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Mon Apr  7 23:19:13 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:19:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] OpenDNS
In-Reply-To: <E51E42ED-13D1-4219-8DF7-5B587355A9C3@comcast.net>
References: <E51E42ED-13D1-4219-8DF7-5B587355A9C3@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804072316350.28387@asylum.sanitarium.net>

I use KMKDNS.  That would be dnscache running on my own box with my own
configuration with nobody but me deciding what it serves.  Doing
otherwise would be like getting all your air through a very long pipe
from an organization that believes that while some oxygen molecules are
completely usable they are somehow evil/immoral and shouldn't be allowed
to exist.

-- 
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:09:19 -0400
> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: [cfgeeks] OpenDNS
> 
> Anyone using OpenDNS?
>
> http://www.opendns.com
>
> Albert Pratts
> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>
>
>
>

From john at mayson.us  Mon Apr  7 23:21:29 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:21:29 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] OpenDNS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804072316350.28387@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <E51E42ED-13D1-4219-8DF7-5B587355A9C3@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0804072316350.28387@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <6645152a0804072021i5d3f0925q1fbda95ef14c134d@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net> wrote:
> I use KMKDNS.  That would be dnscache running on my own box with my own
>  configuration with nobody but me deciding what it serves.  Doing
>  otherwise would be like getting all your air through a very long pipe
>  from an organization that believes that while some oxygen molecules are
>  completely usable they are somehow evil/immoral and shouldn't be allowed
>  to exist.
>

But what about for the other 99.99% of us?  :-)

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From apratts at comcast.net  Mon Apr  7 23:21:59 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:21:59 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Microsoft to Yahoo: Make deal or face proxy fight
Message-ID: <442C14AF-5396-4140-9CD8-AF08DAF1014B@comcast.net>

WTF!!!!

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/04/07/Microsoft-to-Yahoo-Make-deal-or-face-proxy-fight_1.html

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



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