From jonnylee_in_florida at yahoo.com Fri Feb 1 03:33:45 2008 From: jonnylee_in_florida at yahoo.com (Jonathan Squires) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 00:33:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Fun Facts to Know and Tell Message-ID: <364360.67601.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Steve Litt wrote: They were going to release a Chuck Norris edition of Clue, but the answer always turns out to be "Chuck Norris. In The Library. With a Roundhouse Kick." >I thought the answer would be "McCain's too old". >SteveT Why is it that liberals choose to devalue someone because of their age? Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080201/7e23e582/attachment.htm From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 07:15:15 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:15:15 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] The coming "Exaflood" Message-ID: <47A30D53.3090603@inscoe.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.humanproductivitylab.com/archive_blogs/2008/01/31/estimating_the_exaflood.php - -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com GPG 0x61288D53 Skype: ke3vin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHow1TM3kNQ2EojVMRAjLKAJ0XOEop2lEOrkxY6SgPBJjLOJ89WACdHsJm BCpq8Wxa6/OaPbXsUqrf+yk= =GVDD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 07:17:39 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:17:39 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] The 'Heidi Bowl' forty years later... Message-ID: <47A30DE3.6070200@inscoe.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game - -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com GPG 0x61288D53 Skype: ke3vin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHow3jM3kNQ2EojVMRAhI0AJ45hUsbmHXic5uDoHJjZpPZGAvn5wCdHGl1 U4DLFKcp/lRTIMhh8PCc4EM= =d6+3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 07:19:11 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:19:11 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Wow that didn't take long... Message-ID: <47A30E3F.6060903@inscoe.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://videoeta.com/movie/102573 - -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com GPG 0x61288D53 Skype: ke3vin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHow4/M3kNQ2EojVMRAmRdAJkBDFbP/Uhc83YvKsoEJpXMfdgwEwCeM1Sk Kj/GIXoykp1mr5MPQ50FPBI= =x49P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 07:47:38 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:47:38 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Ms. Dewey gets political Message-ID: <47A314EA.1060509@inscoe.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.leftvsright.com/ - -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com GPG 0x61288D53 Skype: ke3vin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHoxTpM3kNQ2EojVMRAkG/AJ9BR/V5JEsCMqmWddNwaZeyn2oYeACfUBOH s0F/JlJpzCGH6punDn6gztE= =zO8u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 07:50:16 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:50:16 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Is it a sin... Message-ID: <47A31588.30605@inscoe.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ... to use twitter as my nagios alert gateway? :-) http://configfun.com/blog/2007/03/26/twitter-as-nagios-notification-gateway/ - -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com GPG 0x61288D53 Skype: ke3vin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHoxWIM3kNQ2EojVMRAoihAKCCRiPFRaoDy+lOqGJ0AIAaKIcJPQCcCx7Q +Xl91KzyNEXKro5zNqmkBYU= =wPzu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From syberghost at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 08:41:26 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:41:26 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] DTeBAY! Message-ID: <1201873286.1638.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> Does eBay emit stupid rays or something? http://cgi.ebay.com/WIRELESS-DELL-LAPTOP-LATiTUDE-WiFi-LAPTOPS-COMPUTER-NR_W0QQitemZ150211769675QQihZ005QQcategoryZ140080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just stopped answering the phones. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080201/3c8b2c83/attachment.pgp From cfg at davehudson.net Fri Feb 1 09:09:04 2008 From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:09:04 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] DTeBAY! In-Reply-To: <1201873286.1638.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> References: <1201873286.1638.0.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> Message-ID: <004301c864dc$00fb96d0$2201a8c0@davehp64> Someone was actually dumb enough to pay $290 for that! -----Original Message----- From: Shawn McMahon [mailto:syberghost at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:41 AM To: Central Florida Geeks Subject: [cfgeeks] DTeBAY! Does eBay emit stupid rays or something? http://cgi.ebay.com/WIRELESS-DELL-LAPTOP-LATiTUDE-WiFi-LAPTOPS-COMPUTER-NR_W 0QQitemZ150211769675QQihZ005QQcategoryZ140080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem From syberghost at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 09:10:43 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:10:43 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Ms. Dewey gets political In-Reply-To: <47A314EA.1060509@inscoe.org> References: <47A314EA.1060509@inscoe.org> Message-ID: <1201875043.1638.8.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 07:47 -0500, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > http://www.leftvsright.com/ Clicked on "Obama". Firefox crashed. I think this is some kind of metaphor about the economy. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <476C133B.3050300@iddings.us> <477EA3B6.2090009@iddings.us> <200801050055.52985.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <477FE1B9.7030200@inscoe.org> <477FE4FF.4090605@inscoe.org> Message-ID: <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> Update 02-01-08 - Well, holy crap. They just came and disconnected my cable. They sent a uniformed officer from the Altamonte Springs PD with them. It's unbelievable. I never threatened them. Not once. I was never violent, what did they think I'd do? I hope they paid for the protection, because it was unwarranted by all imagination. Funny thing, as I sit here with no television, I'm not pissed. It's almost laughable how stupid this got.. Jeff From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 10:42:11 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:42:11 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Ms. Dewey gets political In-Reply-To: <1201875043.1638.8.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> References: <47A314EA.1060509@inscoe.org> <1201875043.1638.8.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> Message-ID: Or Put in Ron Paul. :-) On Feb 1, 2008 9:10 AM, Shawn McMahon wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 07:47 -0500, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > http://www.leftvsright.com/ > > Clicked on "Obama". Firefox crashed. I think this is some kind of > metaphor about the economy. > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 10:51:12 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:51:12 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... Message-ID: http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your-internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-246442.php Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 10:55:32 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:55:32 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <476C133B.3050300@iddings.us> <477EA3B6.2090009@iddings.us> <200801050055.52985.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <477FE1B9.7030200@inscoe.org> <477FE4FF.4090605@inscoe.org> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> Message-ID: See my previous post. TWC is now using strong arm tactics to silence it's critics. Not unreasonable to believe this will extend to the rest of the 'cable mafia'. Just me posting this could cause me to become black marked and lose my cable. But will I shut up? Hells no! On Feb 1, 2008 10:01 AM, Jeff Iddings wrote: > Update 02-01-08 - Well, holy crap. They just came and disconnected my > cable. They sent a uniformed officer from the Altamonte Springs PD with > them. It's unbelievable. I never threatened them. Not once. I was never > violent, what did they think I'd do? I hope they paid for the > protection, because it was unwarranted by all imagination. > > > Funny thing, as I sit here with no television, I'm not pissed. It's > almost laughable how stupid this got.. > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 11:01:17 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:01:17 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] TWC the company that cares... Message-ID: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h0ksXaz9jGQPzQ6rbIcNYdCu0M4wD8UH9SQO0 WTF it costs $2000 for a cable modem and a DVR?? WTH is their supply chain Beverly Hills? -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From jeff at iddings.us Fri Feb 1 11:02:03 2008 From: jeff at iddings.us (Jeff Iddings) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:02:03 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and involved, I guess. Jeff Kevin Inscoe wrote: > http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your-internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-246442.php > > Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... > From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 11:03:47 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:03:47 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> Message-ID: Not shocking enough. On Feb 1, 2008 11:02 AM, Jeff Iddings wrote: > I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and > involved, I guess. > > Jeff > > Kevin Inscoe wrote: > > http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your-internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-246442.php > > > > Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... > > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From jeff at iddings.us Fri Feb 1 11:05:21 2008 From: jeff at iddings.us (Jeff Iddings) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:05:21 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> Message-ID: <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> By the way, this Embarq DSL isn't awful. The over all download speed is a little slow, but the latency is average. No complaints. Jeff Iddings wrote: > I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and > involved, I guess. > > Jeff > > Kevin Inscoe wrote: >> http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your-internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-246442.php >> >> Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... >> > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 11:12:24 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:12:24 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> Message-ID: I am thinking about getting as a backup. On Feb 1, 2008 11:05 AM, Jeff Iddings wrote: > By the way, this Embarq DSL isn't awful. The over all download speed is > a little slow, but the latency is average. No complaints. > > > Jeff Iddings wrote: > > I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and > > involved, I guess. > > > > Jeff > > > > Kevin Inscoe wrote: > >> http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your-internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-246442.php > >> > >> Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > cfgeeks mailing list > > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From syberghost at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 11:24:10 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:24:10 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Hans Reiser's trial has started... Message-ID: <1201883050.1638.19.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> ...and is already making the case weirder. http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/oakland-califor.html The officer also testified the defendant flatulated in his face when the authorities were snapping nude photos of him Sept. 28, 2006. The officer said Reiser told him: "'You're about to experience chaos' and, for lack of a better term, he farted in my face." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just me posting this could cause me to become > black marked and lose my cable. But will I shut up? Hells no! Insert John's rant about companies treating customers like serfs. -- John Mayson Austin, Texas, USA From jeff at iddings.us Fri Feb 1 13:35:32 2008 From: jeff at iddings.us (Jeff Iddings) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:35:32 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: <6645152a0802010852s65c859ccwd1940c3fbf990dc6@mail.gmail.com> References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <477EA3B6.2090009@iddings.us> <200801050055.52985.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <477FE1B9.7030200@inscoe.org> <477FE4FF.4090605@inscoe.org> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> <6645152a0802010852s65c859ccwd1940c3fbf990dc6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A36674.7040800@iddings.us> http://consumerist.com/351664/brighthouse-cable-disconnects-your-service-after-too-many-unsubstantiated-complaints *ahem* Jeff John Mayson wrote: > On 2/1/08, Kevin Inscoe wrote: >> See my previous post. TWC is now using strong arm tactics to silence >> it's critics. Not unreasonable to believe this will extend to the rest >> of the 'cable mafia'. Just me posting this could cause me to become >> black marked and lose my cable. But will I shut up? Hells no! > > Insert John's rant about companies treating customers like serfs. > From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 14:13:12 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:13:12 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Yuri, you lost *another* cable!! Message-ID: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/02/01/internet.outage/index.html?eref=rss_latest -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Feb 1 16:02:56 2008 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:02:56 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Fun Facts to Know and Tell In-Reply-To: <364360.67601.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <364360.67601.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200802011602.56249.slitt@troubleshooters.com> On Friday 01 February 2008 03:33, Jonathan Squires wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > They were going to release a Chuck Norris edition of Clue, but > the answer always turns out to be "Chuck Norris. In The Library. > With a Roundhouse Kick." > > >I thought the answer would be "McCain's too old". > > > >SteveT > > Why is it that liberals choose to devalue someone because of their age? Ask Chuck Norris. StevET From syberghost at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 16:05:10 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:05:10 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Fun Facts to Know and Tell In-Reply-To: <200802011602.56249.slitt@troubleshooters.com> References: <364360.67601.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200802011602.56249.slitt@troubleshooters.com> Message-ID: <1201899910.1638.38.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 16:02 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Why is it that liberals choose to devalue someone because of their age? > > Ask Chuck Norris. I tried, but I woke up in the hospital. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080201/921b8302/attachment.pgp From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Feb 1 16:10:24 2008 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:10:24 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> Message-ID: <200802011610.24688.slitt@troubleshooters.com> On Friday 01 February 2008 10:01, Jeff Iddings wrote: > Update 02-01-08 - Well, holy crap. They just came and disconnected my > cable. They sent a uniformed officer from the Altamonte Springs PD with > them. It's unbelievable. I never threatened them. Not once. I was never > violent, what did they think I'd do? I hope they paid for the > protection, because it was unwarranted by all imagination. > > > Funny thing, as I sit here with no television, I'm not pissed. It's > almost laughable how stupid this got.. SCREW THEM! Get a rabbit ears and laugh all the way to the bank. SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Feb 1 16:11:25 2008 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:11:25 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> Message-ID: <200802011611.26085.slitt@troubleshooters.com> Where's your previous post? I'd like to see it. SteveT On Friday 01 February 2008 10:55, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > See my previous post. TWC is now using strong arm tactics to silence > it's critics. Not unreasonable to believe this will extend to the rest > of the 'cable mafia'. Just me posting this could cause me to become > black marked and lose my cable. But will I shut up? Hells no! > > On Feb 1, 2008 10:01 AM, Jeff Iddings wrote: > > Update 02-01-08 - Well, holy crap. They just came and disconnected my > > cable. They sent a uniformed officer from the Altamonte Springs PD with > > them. It's unbelievable. I never threatened them. Not once. I was never > > violent, what did they think I'd do? I hope they paid for the > > protection, because it was unwarranted by all imagination. > > > > > > Funny thing, as I sit here with no television, I'm not pissed. It's > > almost laughable how stupid this got.. > > > > Jeff > > > > _______________________________________________ > > cfgeeks mailing list > > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From slitt at troubleshooters.com Fri Feb 1 16:12:38 2008 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:12:38 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> Message-ID: <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> Just be real nice to them, because if you lose them too, you'll need to do some fancy footwork to get broadband. SteveT On Friday 01 February 2008 11:05, Jeff Iddings wrote: > By the way, this Embarq DSL isn't awful. The over all download speed is > a little slow, but the latency is average. No complaints. > > Jeff Iddings wrote: > > I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and > > involved, I guess. > > > > Jeff > > > > Kevin Inscoe wrote: > >> http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your > >>-internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-24 > >>6442.php > >> > >> Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > cfgeeks mailing list > > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From john at mayson.us Fri Feb 1 16:15:52 2008 From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:15:52 -0600 Subject: [cfgeeks] Fun Facts to Know and Tell In-Reply-To: <1201899910.1638.38.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> References: <364360.67601.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200802011602.56249.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <1201899910.1638.38.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> Message-ID: <6645152a0802011315t2f2092bepcfe9101e7c822878@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/08, Shawn McMahon wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 16:02 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > Why is it that liberals choose to devalue someone because of their age? > > > > Ask Chuck Norris. > > I tried, but I woke up in the hospital. He had mercy on you I see. -- John Mayson Austin, Texas, USA From john at mayson.us Fri Feb 1 16:19:31 2008 From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:19:31 -0600 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> Message-ID: <6645152a0802011319o16c9e1b2j2a7deefa5c59db6c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/1/08, Steve Litt wrote: > Just be real nice to them, because if you lose them too, you'll need to do > some fancy footwork to get broadband. Have I mentioned lately just how perfect Time-Warner is? The only negative thing I can think of to say is I didn't switch sooner. :-) Actually they have been quite reliable, friendly, and responsive. I hope it stays that way. -- John Mayson Austin, Texas, USA From jeff at iddings.us Fri Feb 1 16:22:12 2008 From: jeff at iddings.us (Jeff Iddings) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:22:12 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> Message-ID: <47A38D84.5040003@iddings.us> Yeah, though if there's any implication that I wasn't nice with BrightHouse, it's incorrect. I complained a lot, I wrote a lot of e-mails, but never once did I get nasty (all a matter of perspective), vulgar, or threatening. Jeff Steve Litt wrote: > Just be real nice to them, because if you lose them too, you'll need to do > some fancy footwork to get broadband. > > SteveT > > On Friday 01 February 2008 11:05, Jeff Iddings wrote: >> By the way, this Embarq DSL isn't awful. The over all download speed is >> a little slow, but the latency is average. No complaints. >> >> Jeff Iddings wrote: >>> I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and >>> involved, I guess. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> Kevin Inscoe wrote: >>>> http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your >>>> -internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-24 >>>> 6442.php >>>> >>>> Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cfgeeks mailing list >>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >> _______________________________________________ >> cfgeeks mailing list >> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 16:26:36 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:26:36 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] How to clone a partition in Linux Message-ID: I know I have asked this before and I can't find it now in Solaris you can clone the partition table of one drive to another using prtvtoc | fmthard| fmthard -s how do you do this in Linux? -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From syberghost at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 16:31:55 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:31:55 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] How to clone a partition in Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1201901515.1638.41.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 16:26 -0500, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > I know I have asked this before and I can't find it now in Solaris you > can clone the partition table of one drive to another using prtvtoc | > fmthard| fmthard -s how do you do this in Linux? To save partition info: sfdisk -d /dev/cciss/c0d0 > some/file To restore: sfdisk /dev/cciss/c0d0 --force < some/file -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080201/9cc995d1/attachment-0001.pgp From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 16:37:52 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:37:52 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <47A38D84.5040003@iddings.us> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <47A38D84.5040003@iddings.us> Message-ID: And BTW in all honesty Brighthouse (yes I like to call them Dimhouse for fun) has actually been for the most part ok with me and I actually have kinda been visibly annoyed with them at times. But this whole cable mafia thing has to go. There are other options (EV-doh, DSL , dial-up, Satellite) but none of them are pretty. I really want to see what Verizon started to do roll out a completely redundant fiber network (FiOS) yeah it's copper to the DEMARC but it's fiber to your house. Now I have been hearing that those who switch to FiOS *loose* their copper connection in the process which would not be good. On Feb 1, 2008 4:22 PM, Jeff Iddings wrote: > Yeah, though if there's any implication that I wasn't nice with > BrightHouse, it's incorrect. I complained a lot, I wrote a lot of > e-mails, but never once did I get nasty (all a matter of perspective), > vulgar, or threatening. > > Jeff > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > Just be real nice to them, because if you lose them too, you'll need to do > > some fancy footwork to get broadband. > > > > SteveT > > > > On Friday 01 February 2008 11:05, Jeff Iddings wrote: > >> By the way, this Embarq DSL isn't awful. The over all download speed is > >> a little slow, but the latency is average. No complaints. > >> > >> Jeff Iddings wrote: > >>> I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and > >>> involved, I guess. > >>> > >>> Jeff > >>> > >>> Kevin Inscoe wrote: > >>>> http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your > >>>> -internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-24 > >>>> 6442.php > >>>> > >>>> Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> cfgeeks mailing list > >>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > >>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > >> _______________________________________________ > >> cfgeeks mailing list > >> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > >> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > _______________________________________________ > > cfgeeks mailing list > > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From kevin at inscoe.org Fri Feb 1 16:38:40 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:38:40 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] How to clone a partition in Linux In-Reply-To: <1201901515.1638.41.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> References: <1201901515.1638.41.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> Message-ID: Thanka thanka I put in in my PDA to remember. :-) On Feb 1, 2008 4:31 PM, Shawn McMahon wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 16:26 -0500, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > > I know I have asked this before and I can't find it now in Solaris you > > can clone the partition table of one drive to another using prtvtoc | > > fmthard| fmthard -s how do you do this in Linux? > > To save partition info: > > sfdisk -d /dev/cciss/c0d0 > some/file > > To restore: > > sfdisk /dev/cciss/c0d0 --force < some/file > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From syberghost at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 16:39:22 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:39:22 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] IAXT Message-ID: <1201901962.1638.45.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> I saw this and thought of you immediately: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/8cdd/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080201/f101170e/attachment.pgp From jeff at iddings.us Fri Feb 1 16:43:28 2008 From: jeff at iddings.us (Jeff Iddings) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:43:28 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <47A38D84.5040003@iddings.us> Message-ID: <47A39280.2070402@iddings.us> And I too was a very pleased customer for the better part of 7 years (going back to Cablevision)... They provide an excellent product when it works. And even as my blog says, it's been flawless since December 23rd. Or it was until Mr. BrightHouse Tech with the wire snips showed up. I e-mailed the city manager's assistant, someone I had been in contact with previously. And he confirmed for me they did indeed send a police officer out with a tech. Good thing I didn't smear dog shit on the cable terminal, eh? Not that I had even considered doing such a thing.... Jeff Kevin Inscoe wrote: > And BTW in all honesty Brighthouse (yes I like to call them Dimhouse > for fun) has actually been for the most part ok with me and I actually > have kinda been visibly annoyed with them at times. But this whole > cable mafia thing has to go. There are other options (EV-doh, DSL , > dial-up, Satellite) but none of them are pretty. I really want to see > what Verizon started to do roll out a completely redundant fiber > network (FiOS) yeah it's copper to the DEMARC but it's fiber to your > house. Now I have been hearing that those who switch to FiOS *loose* > their copper connection in the process which would not be good. > > On Feb 1, 2008 4:22 PM, Jeff Iddings wrote: >> Yeah, though if there's any implication that I wasn't nice with >> BrightHouse, it's incorrect. I complained a lot, I wrote a lot of >> e-mails, but never once did I get nasty (all a matter of perspective), >> vulgar, or threatening. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> Steve Litt wrote: >>> Just be real nice to them, because if you lose them too, you'll need to do >>> some fancy footwork to get broadband. >>> >>> SteveT >>> >>> On Friday 01 February 2008 11:05, Jeff Iddings wrote: >>>> By the way, this Embarq DSL isn't awful. The over all download speed is >>>> a little slow, but the latency is average. No complaints. >>>> >>>> Jeff Iddings wrote: >>>>> I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too wordy and >>>>> involved, I guess. >>>>> >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>>> Kevin Inscoe wrote: >>>>>> http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your >>>>>> -internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect-your-cable-24 >>>>>> 6442.php >>>>>> >>>>>> Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way out... >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> cfgeeks mailing list >>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> cfgeeks mailing list >>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cfgeeks mailing list >>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >> _______________________________________________ >> cfgeeks mailing list >> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >> > > > From john at mayson.us Fri Feb 1 16:45:19 2008 From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:45:19 -0600 Subject: [cfgeeks] Ms. Dewey gets political In-Reply-To: <47A314EA.1060509@inscoe.org> References: <47A314EA.1060509@inscoe.org> Message-ID: <6645152a0802011345u2f84ebd7i1213c53dbe348530@mail.gmail.com> "Does Britt have PMS?" I would type that, but the site is so dang slow I'd swear it was a creation of Microsoft. Oh, wait a minute.... -- John Mayson Austin, Texas, USA From kmk at sanitarium.net Fri Feb 1 16:53:22 2008 From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:53:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cfgeeks] How to clone a partition in Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sfdisk -d /dev/olddisk | sfdisk /dev/newdisk - -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:26:36 -0500 > From: Kevin Inscoe > To: Central Florida Geeks > Subject: [cfgeeks] How to clone a partition in Linux > > I know I have asked this before and I can't find it now in Solaris you > can clone the partition table of one drive to another using prtvtoc | > fmthard| fmthard -s how do you do this in Linux? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHo5TTVKC1jlbQAQcRAhLgAKCK8pi0QcqAdcazOxScMEOvuet1lQCgu5Pp AuzhnXVbRSCi6Q5Xl9q41hc= =+LLD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Fri Feb 1 21:32:49 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:32:49 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Is it a sin... In-Reply-To: <47A31588.30605@inscoe.org> References: <47A31588.30605@inscoe.org> Message-ID: On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ... to use twitter as my nagios alert gateway? :-) > > http://configfun.com/blog/2007/03/26/twitter-as-nagios-notification-gateway/ "IIIIIIII LIKE IT!!!" Robocop From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Fri Feb 1 21:46:52 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:46:52 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <476C133B.3050300@iddings.us> <477EA3B6.2090009@iddings.us> <200801050055.52985.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <477FE1B9.7030200@inscoe.org> <477FE4FF.4090605@inscoe.org> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> Message-ID: <6DB98F20-9900-466D-ACE6-08E872ADBF7E@cfl.rr.com> Time to get an Apple TV and bypass that ship :). On Feb 1, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > See my previous post. TWC is now using strong arm tactics to silence > it's critics. Not unreasonable to believe this will extend to the rest > of the 'cable mafia'. Just me posting this could cause me to become > black marked and lose my cable. But will I shut up? Hells no! > > On Feb 1, 2008 10:01 AM, Jeff Iddings wrote: >> Update 02-01-08 - Well, holy crap. They just came and disconnected my >> cable. They sent a uniformed officer from the Altamonte Springs PD >> with >> them. It's unbelievable. I never threatened them. Not once. I was >> never >> violent, what did they think I'd do? I hope they paid for the >> protection, because it was unwarranted by all imagination. >> >> >> Funny thing, as I sit here with no television, I'm not pissed. It's >> almost laughable how stupid this got.. >> >> Jeff >> >> _______________________________________________ >> cfgeeks mailing list >> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >> > > > > -- > Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN > Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W > kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com > Skype: ke3vin > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Fri Feb 1 21:59:04 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:59:04 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thursday, Jan 31. 04:43 am.. Timer Warner becomes Korb aware... In-Reply-To: <47A39280.2070402@iddings.us> References: <47A3427B.3070304@iddings.us> <47A34341.7000706@iddings.us> <200802011612.38339.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <47A38D84.5040003@iddings.us> <47A39280.2070402@iddings.us> Message-ID: <3A62D54B-70DA-4F8D-A378-40F622DB9598@cfl.rr.com> There is an oversight office that you can contact as well. Not that they have much teeth, but i'll get you the name of the person at my next board meeting. My village has had to deal with BrightWhoreHouse cable shenanigans before as well. On Feb 1, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Jeff Iddings wrote: > And I too was a very pleased customer for the better part of 7 years > (going back to Cablevision)... They provide an excellent product when > it works. And even as my blog says, it's been flawless since December > 23rd. Or it was until Mr. BrightHouse Tech with the wire snips > showed up. > > I e-mailed the city manager's assistant, someone I had been in contact > with previously. And he confirmed for me they did indeed send a police > officer out with a tech. Good thing I didn't smear dog shit on the > cable > terminal, eh? Not that I had even considered doing such a thing.... > > Jeff > > Kevin Inscoe wrote: >> And BTW in all honesty Brighthouse (yes I like to call them Dimhouse >> for fun) has actually been for the most part ok with me and I >> actually >> have kinda been visibly annoyed with them at times. But this whole >> cable mafia thing has to go. There are other options (EV-doh, DSL , >> dial-up, Satellite) but none of them are pretty. I really want to see >> what Verizon started to do roll out a completely redundant fiber >> network (FiOS) yeah it's copper to the DEMARC but it's fiber to your >> house. Now I have been hearing that those who switch to FiOS *loose* >> their copper connection in the process which would not be good. >> >> On Feb 1, 2008 4:22 PM, Jeff Iddings wrote: >>> Yeah, though if there's any implication that I wasn't nice with >>> BrightHouse, it's incorrect. I complained a lot, I wrote a lot of >>> e-mails, but never once did I get nasty (all a matter of >>> perspective), >>> vulgar, or threatening. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> Steve Litt wrote: >>>> Just be real nice to them, because if you lose them too, you'll >>>> need to do >>>> some fancy footwork to get broadband. >>>> >>>> SteveT >>>> >>>> On Friday 01 February 2008 11:05, Jeff Iddings wrote: >>>>> By the way, this Embarq DSL isn't awful. The over all download >>>>> speed is >>>>> a little slow, but the latency is average. No complaints. >>>>> >>>>> Jeff Iddings wrote: >>>>>> I submitted my story there, but they didn't pick it up.. too >>>>>> wordy and >>>>>> involved, I guess. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> Kevin Inscoe wrote: >>>>>>> http://consumerist.com/consumer/time-warner-cable/time-warner-cable-your >>>>>>> -internet-isnt-working-so-were-sending-a-tech-to-disconnect- >>>>>>> your-cable-24 >>>>>>> 6442.php >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Snippety doo-dah! Don't let the kurb hit yer butt on the way >>>>>>> out... >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> cfgeeks mailing list >>>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> cfgeeks mailing list >>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> cfgeeks mailing list >>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cfgeeks mailing list >>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Sat Feb 2 09:02:46 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 09:02:46 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thank goodness... Message-ID: We are stubborn, dim, illogical, unfeeling, lumbering knuckle dragging caveman. And now, men are finally obsolete as well. http://tinyurl.com/yqrjjf From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Sat Feb 2 09:54:34 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 09:54:34 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Just guns? Message-ID: Why in my day we learned how to disassemble a fully operational quad 50, blindfolded, uphill in a snowstorm. Use to prime the hydraulics with our mouths too. And don't even get me started about the 150mm howitzers... http://tinyurl.com/yqrjjf From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Sat Feb 2 10:36:21 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:36:21 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Aside from the stuttering audio playback Message-ID: and the having to click icons 7-8 times, and it's bigger and heavier, and slower, obvious patent and copyright violations, and good luck with any support, and you'll save about $50.... and....uhhh... yeah... http://tinyurl.com/2g6a9x From john at mayson.us Sat Feb 2 13:29:00 2008 From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:29:00 -0600 Subject: [cfgeeks] Thank goodness... Message-ID: <1201976940.1381.8.camel@tintin> Nah. Who will chaznge light bulbs and fix computers? From syberghost at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 10:32:40 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:32:40 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [Daily Illuminator] I'll Keep Wearing Black Till They Make Something Darker] Message-ID: <1202052760.9220.0.camel@qward> Ads snipped: -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: webmaster at sjgames.com > To: illuminator at sjgames.com > Subject: [Daily Illuminator] I'll Keep Wearing Black Till They Make > Something Darker > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:00:02 -0600 > > > Yeah, yeah, we keep saying that, and nothing happens. Until now. Rice > University ( http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=4074.php ) has > created a nanotech material that's a great deal blacker than black. > Oddly enough, their suggested list of applications completely omits > T-shirts. > -- Steve Jackson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gilbert Young wrote: | Time to get an Apple TV and bypass that ship :). | | | On Feb 1, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Kevin Inscoe wrote: | |> See my previous post. TWC is now using strong arm tactics to silence |> it's critics. Not unreasonable to believe this will extend to the rest |> of the 'cable mafia'. Just me posting this could cause me to become |> black marked and lose my cable. But will I shut up? Hells no! |> |> On Feb 1, 2008 10:01 AM, Jeff Iddings wrote: |>> Update 02-01-08 - Well, holy crap. They just came and disconnected my |>> cable. They sent a uniformed officer from the Altamonte Springs PD |>> with |>> them. It's unbelievable. I never threatened them. Not once. I was |>> never |>> violent, what did they think I'd do? I hope they paid for the |>> protection, because it was unwarranted by all imagination. |>> |>> |>> Funny thing, as I sit here with no television, I'm not pissed. It's |>> almost laughable how stupid this got.. |>> |>> Jeff |>> |>> _______________________________________________ |>> cfgeeks mailing list |>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org |>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks |>> |> |> |> -- |> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN |> Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W |> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com |> Skype: ke3vin |> _______________________________________________ |> cfgeeks mailing list |> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org |> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks | | _______________________________________________ | cfgeeks mailing list | cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org | http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks | - -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com GPG 0x61288D53 Skype: ke3vin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHpkdyM3kNQ2EojVMRAkX1AJkBs2S855E+wqtIMJ/v0CRGb9Z9MACfcJzW SjjKtwLalovTDsl5d85IYHU= =pVBN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From john at mayson.us Sun Feb 3 19:06:06 2008 From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:06:06 -0600 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: <47A64772.1040301@inscoe.org> References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <477FE1B9.7030200@inscoe.org> <477FE4FF.4090605@inscoe.org> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> <6DB98F20-9900-466D-ACE6-08E872ADBF7E@cfl.rr.com> <47A64772.1040301@inscoe.org> Message-ID: <6645152a0802031606q40b268ay8869282e497cb1e1@mail.gmail.com> On 2/3/08, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ok I'll bite.How umm does it do that without broadband access? iPhone. :-P -- John Mayson Austin, Texas, USA From syberghost at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 19:31:26 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:31:26 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: <47A64772.1040301@inscoe.org> References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <476C133B.3050300@iddings.us> <477EA3B6.2090009@iddings.us> <200801050055.52985.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <477FE1B9.7030200@inscoe.org> <477FE4FF.4090605@inscoe.org> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> <6DB98F20-9900-466D-ACE6-08E872ADBF7E@cfl.rr.com> <47A64772.1040301@inscoe.org> Message-ID: <1202085086.12366.1.camel@qward> On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 18:00 -0500, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ok I'll bite.How umm does it do that without broadband access? Very, very slowly. However, I still don't see how using Apple TV punishes the cable company, if he's already not their customer. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080203/d54e3df4/attachment.pgp From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Sun Feb 3 21:29:19 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:29:19 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Anyone have BrightHouse in the Altamonte Springs area - 436/434 intersection... In-Reply-To: <1202085086.12366.1.camel@qward> References: <47627278.5090806@iddings.us> <476C133B.3050300@iddings.us> <477EA3B6.2090009@iddings.us> <200801050055.52985.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <477FE1B9.7030200@inscoe.org> <477FE4FF.4090605@inscoe.org> <47A33451.8070900@iddings.us> <6DB98F20-9900-466D-ACE6-08E872ADBF7E@cfl.rr.com> <47A64772.1040301@inscoe.org> <1202085086.12366.1.camel@qward> Message-ID: <39AA3F63-615A-4B20-8A7F-0BEA35850799@cfl.rr.com> On Feb 3, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Shawn McMahon wrote: > On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 18:00 -0500, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Ok I'll bite.How umm does it do that without broadband access? > > Very, very slowly. > > However, I still don't see how using Apple TV punishes the cable > company, if he's already not their customer. Not aiming to punish, just bypass. I'm pretty sure you can get just internet access from someone other than Brighthouse? From apratts at comcast.net Mon Feb 4 10:19:26 2008 From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:19:26 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] stop php5! References: <020420081514.11762.47A72BD9000D280E00002DF222230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0E900102070797900A080C@att.net> Message-ID: <0CA9B9CF-559B-45F4-B275-7DA0F8EFC67C@comcast.net> click on the "donate" link http://stopphp5.org Albert Pratts Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Albert Pratts wrote: > click on the "donate" link > > http://stopphp5.org > > Albert Pratts > Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks Andy Stetzinger andy at stetzinger.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080204/b552c597/attachment.htm From andy at stetzinger.com Mon Feb 4 10:39:45 2008 From: andy at stetzinger.com (Andy Stetzinger) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:39:45 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] stop php5! In-Reply-To: References: <020420081514.11762.47A72BD9000D280E00002DF222230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0E900102070797900A080C@att.net> <0CA9B9CF-559B-45F4-B275-7DA0F8EFC67C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <180E6280-3C05-4482-BE25-FD886D791AD6@stetzinger.com> Geeze... not only is it horrid, it's a rip off of an equally horrid site. http://gophp5.org/ On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Andy Stetzinger wrote: > My gawd that's a horrid website.. > > I shall not donate. > > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Albert Pratts wrote: > >> click on the "donate" link >> >> http://stopphp5.org >> >> Albert Pratts >> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> cfgeeks mailing list >> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > Andy Stetzinger > andy at stetzinger.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks Andy Stetzinger andy at stetzinger.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Feb 4, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Shawn McMahon wrote: > http://lifehacker.com/software/gmail/instant-disposable-gmail- > addresses-144397.php > > Until teh spammerz figure this out, of course. > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks Andy Stetzinger andy at stetzinger.com From kevin at inscoe.org Mon Feb 4 14:25:27 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:25:27 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] stop php5! In-Reply-To: <0CA9B9CF-559B-45F4-B275-7DA0F8EFC67C@comcast.net> References: <020420081514.11762.47A72BD9000D280E00002DF222230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0E900102070797900A080C@att.net> <0CA9B9CF-559B-45F4-B275-7DA0F8EFC67C@comcast.net> Message-ID: Oh good grief what a stupid thing. On Feb 4, 2008 10:19 AM, Albert Pratts wrote: > click on the "donate" link > > http://stopphp5.org > > > Albert Pratts > Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From kevin at inscoe.org Mon Feb 4 14:27:53 2008 From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:27:53 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] stop php5! In-Reply-To: <180E6280-3C05-4482-BE25-FD886D791AD6@stetzinger.com> References: <020420081514.11762.47A72BD9000D280E00002DF222230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0E900102070797900A080C@att.net> <0CA9B9CF-559B-45F4-B275-7DA0F8EFC67C@comcast.net> <180E6280-3C05-4482-BE25-FD886D791AD6@stetzinger.com> Message-ID: Yeah that's a ripoff of it's older brother goperl6.com. Oh wait there is no go perl 6 .com you say? Yeahhhh... there's a reason for that... now put sock in it! :-) On Feb 4, 2008 10:39 AM, Andy Stetzinger wrote: > > Geeze... not only is it horrid, it's a rip off of an equally horrid site. > > > http://gophp5.org/ > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Andy Stetzinger wrote: > My gawd that's a horrid website.. > > I shall not donate. > > > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Albert Pratts wrote: > click on the "donate" link > > http://stopphp5.org > > > Albert Pratts > Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > Andy Stetzinger > andy at stetzinger.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > Andy Stetzinger > andy at stetzinger.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Mon Feb 4 14:40:41 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:40:41 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad Message-ID: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> I don't like any of the candidates. It's like the country is just choosing someone to keep the seat warm and no other reason. Clinton/Obama want to spend spend spend McCain seems to be turning out to be untrustworthy, and not firm on certain key issues. Mitt and/or Huckabee just don't have what it takes, IMHO, to lead the country Ron Paul is borderline radical when it comes to fiscal policy. Are there any others that have even a ghost of a chance? Any fair tax proponents? Abilene Paradox, here we come! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox http://tinyurl.com/28la2w I was fortunate enough to see an original, but taped, performance of this from the person that lived it, it is absolutely hilarious. From kmk at sanitarium.net Mon Feb 4 14:47:44 2008 From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:47:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> References: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: I feel the same way. Last time I refused to vote for either candidate (yes, I voted libertarian) but I did have an opinion on which one I wanted to win. I didn't really want them to win I just hated one slightly less than the other. This time I am not even sure I can form an opinion as to which evil is lesser. I may end up rooting for the less competent candidate in the hopes that their evil plans will simply fail. -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Gilbert Young wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:40:41 -0500 > From: Gilbert Young > To: Central Florida Geeks > Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad > > I don't like any of the candidates. It's like the country is just > choosing someone to keep the seat warm and no other reason. > > > Clinton/Obama want to spend spend spend > McCain seems to be turning out to be untrustworthy, and not firm on > certain key issues. > Mitt and/or Huckabee just don't have what it takes, IMHO, to lead the > country > Ron Paul is borderline radical when it comes to fiscal policy. > > Are there any others that have even a ghost of a chance? Any fair tax > proponents? > > > > Abilene Paradox, here we come! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox > > http://tinyurl.com/28la2w > > I was fortunate enough to see an original, but taped, performance of > this from the person that lived it, it is absolutely hilarious. > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > From syberghost at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 14:59:46 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:59:46 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> References: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <1202155186.14362.23.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 14:40 -0500, Gilbert Young wrote: > > Ron Paul is borderline radical when it comes to fiscal policy. Borderline? He wants to take an economy that's already producing more per year than triple the current value of all the gold in the entire world (including gold that nobody has mined yet, gold we don't own, and gold that would cost more to mine than it'd worth even after this) and put it back on the gold standard, instantly making gold cost so much that every industry that uses it for anything other than money will instantly collapse, and causing a massive disparity between gold and non-gold states that would collapse economies around the world. WTH would you call actually radical, switching us to the cheese standard? If I ran a gold-standard country with nukes and Paul was going to win, I'd probably nuke us in self defense. > Are there any others that have even a ghost of a chance? Any fair tax > proponents? Huckabee, whom I don't like, is the big Fair Tax proponent. Mitt likes the idea of a flat tax, but hasn't committed to specifically the Fair Tax as proposed. Fairtax.org lists Romney as "no" but they've been screwy on this for months; not listing people who've said they favor it, listing people who've been noncommittal as "yes" or "no" seemingly at random, etc. I think the legitimate answer for him would be "NA" or "I don't know". I know this; McCain, Clinton, and Obama are all dead set against it. If you really want to see the Fair Tax passed, best strategy right now is to vote for Huckabee (not that you can, your shot has passed) and hope for a brokered convention. If he threw his delegates to Romney in return for the VP nomination and then they won, we'd have our best chance to date of getting it passed. Which is to say, not good, but closer than it's come before. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I may end up rooting for the less competent candidate > in the hopes that their evil plans will simply fail. Bad idea. Bush was the most incompetent ever, and his plans all failed, but he left us in debt, with an exhausted milary, rotting infrastructure, and a very angry citizenry. SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Feb 4 16:43:59 2008 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:43:59 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> References: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200802041644.00089.slitt@troubleshooters.com> On Monday 04 February 2008 14:40, Gilbert Young wrote: > I don't like any of the candidates. It's like the country is just > choosing someone to keep the seat warm and no other reason. > > > Clinton/Obama want to spend spend spend I guarantee you they'll spend far less than the current clown, and I think it's likely they'll spend less than McCain. They said Bill Clinton wanted to spend, spend spend, yet he was the first president since Nixon to run a surplus budget. I think Hillary and Barack might do the same thing. > McCain seems to be turning out to be untrustworthy, and not firm on > certain key issues. I trust him, but don't like what he says he wants to do. He wants to continue the war ad infinitum. Our country has neither the financial, military or citizen committment resources to do that. He says he wants everyone to get their own healthcare in the private sector like that's some kind of new idea. He doesn't get that we've been trying that since the 1940's, and if you keep doing the same thing, you'll keep getting the same results. Or else he gets it and likes the results we're getting now. > Mitt and/or Huckabee just don't have what it takes, IMHO, to lead the > country I don't want a president who passes judgement on what I do in my bedroom. I've got a wife to do that :-) > Ron Paul is borderline radical when it comes to fiscal policy. He's a Libertarian. No wait, he's a Republican. No a Libertarian. No, a Republican. What he actually is is irrelevent. SteveT From syberghost at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 16:48:21 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:48:21 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: <200802041644.00089.slitt@troubleshooters.com> References: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> <200802041644.00089.slitt@troubleshooters.com> Message-ID: <1202161701.14362.29.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:43 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > They said Bill Clinton wanted to spend, spend spend, yet he was the first > president since Nixon to run a surplus budget. I think Hillary and Barack > might do the same thing. Except he didn't, actually. Social Security was rolled into the general fund and basically every penny of it not actually going back out the door to current recipients became part of the general fund. It no longer saves a penny, it's a straight welfare program. That's how Clinton manufactured his fake surplus. > doing the same thing, you'll keep getting the same results. Or else he gets > it and likes the results we're getting now. I'll save you the trouble of quoting the ridiculous 47 million number and go ahead and destroy it now; it includes 20 million illegal immigrants, 15 million people who make in excess of $1 million a year, and everybody who changed jobs at any point during the year and thus were "uninsured" for a weekend. Never mind the people who make a "mere" $900,000 a year and don't choose to buy insurance they don't need. The major things wrong with our current system were caused by people like John Edwards. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Social Security was rolled into the general > fund and basically every penny of it not actually going back out the > door to current recipients became part of the general fund. It no > longer saves a penny, it's a straight welfare program. That's how > Clinton manufactured his fake surplus. > > > doing the same thing, you'll keep getting the same results. Or else he gets > > it and likes the results we're getting now. > > I'll save you the trouble of quoting the ridiculous 47 million number > and go ahead and destroy it now; it includes 20 million illegal > immigrants, 15 million people who make in excess of $1 million a year, > and everybody who changed jobs at any point during the year and thus > were "uninsured" for a weekend. Never mind the people who make a "mere" > $900,000 a year and don't choose to buy insurance they don't need. > > The major things wrong with our current system were caused by people > like John Edwards. > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > -- Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From syberghost at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 16:54:47 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:54:47 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: References: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> <200802041644.00089.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <1202161701.14362.29.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> Message-ID: <1202162087.14362.30.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:52 -0500, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > BTW cfgeeks-talk is cfgeeks-talk at mail.cfgeeks.org Sorry, didn't notice the OP sent it to the wrong list. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com Skype: ke3vin From j at damronplanet.com Mon Feb 4 17:53:36 2008 From: j at damronplanet.com (Jonathan Damron) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:53:36 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] SNES game goes for a grand Message-ID: <47A79770.3070109@damronplanet.com> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/02/04/snes-game-goes-grand Jonathan From j at damronplanet.com Mon Feb 4 18:00:34 2008 From: j at damronplanet.com (Jonathan Damron) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:00:34 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Ubuntu 8.04 alpha 4 released Message-ID: <47A79912.503@damronplanet.com> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/alpha4 Jonathan From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Mon Feb 4 20:27:52 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:27:52 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: References: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <3D23B42F-1D22-457A-A930-2831E6241DEF@cfl.rr.com> On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Kevin Korb wrote: > I feel the same way. > Last time I refused to vote for either candidate (yes, I voted > libertarian) but I did have an opinion on which one I wanted to > win. I > didn't really want them to win I just hated one slightly less than the > other. This time I am not even sure I can form an opinion as to which > evil is lesser. I may end up rooting for the less competent candidate > in the hopes that their evil plans will simply fail. IIRC that is an old CIA strategy, they'd off the strong leader so the incompetent one would prevail, and keep the enemy in disarray. From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Mon Feb 4 20:33:53 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:33:53 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: <1202162087.14362.30.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> References: <8F2D096F-A5BB-4201-A077-D609539E23AD@cfl.rr.com> <200802041644.00089.slitt@troubleshooters.com> <1202161701.14362.29.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> <1202162087.14362.30.camel@sars.mco.dss.fedex.com> Message-ID: Apologies. On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Shawn McMahon wrote: > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:52 -0500, Kevin Inscoe wrote: >> BTW cfgeeks-talk is cfgeeks-talk at mail.cfgeeks.org > > Sorry, didn't notice the OP sent it to the wrong list. > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com Mon Feb 4 20:45:45 2008 From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:45:45 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E777FBD-2B98-44CB-AD2E-AEFA29F31FE6@cfl.rr.com> On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now > so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend > for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) > > I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one > which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. I don't think that exists today. IMHO progressive Linux distros are generally short-lived, costly, thankless, and generally unstable. I'd just go for stable and load a good package manager on it. Heh who am I kidding, i'd go for OS X and y'all know it :). From graham.christensen at iamgraham.net Mon Feb 4 20:55:32 2008 From: graham.christensen at iamgraham.net (Graham Christensen) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:55:32 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <5E777FBD-2B98-44CB-AD2E-AEFA29F31FE6@cfl.rr.com> References: <5E777FBD-2B98-44CB-AD2E-AEFA29F31FE6@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <47A7C214.5080002@iamgraham.net> I personally use Gentoo on my servers. They are generally kept quite up to date, and with a few servers + distccd + ccache the compiling isn't even a big deal. When I finish the Gentoo install, I make a mirror of the drive, configure it, and mirror it again, just so I don't need to spend that time later on. The documentation is 2nd to none in my experience, with excellent documentation regarding nearly anything I've had to do. On top of that, packages arn't difficult to create yourself, including applying patches to the code, etc. On top of that, the community is generally quite skilled with Gentoo, and is quick/efficient at helping. Graham Christensen http://itrebal.com - Customized Web Hosting Graham.Christensen at iamgraham.net Gilbert Young wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > > >> To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now >> so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend >> for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) >> >> I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one >> which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. >> > > > I don't think that exists today. IMHO progressive Linux distros are > generally short-lived, costly, thankless, and generally unstable. > > I'd just go for stable and load a good package manager on it. > > Heh who am I kidding, i'd go for OS X and y'all know it :). > > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > From ae4ko at amsat.org Mon Feb 4 20:47:15 2008 From: ae4ko at amsat.org (Aaron Morrison) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:47:15 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C59947D-F15C-4E40-86A2-AE9FF49B7877@amsat.org> My picks... CentOS - RedHat without Red Hat... essentially RHEL with a community.... centos.org Ubuntu-LTS (LTS=Long Term Support) if you like the Debian style packaging... --am On 04 Feb 2008, at 16:59, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now > so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend > for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) > > I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one > which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. > > -- > Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN > Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W > kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com > Skype: ke3vin > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From jonnylee_in_florida at yahoo.com Mon Feb 4 21:11:17 2008 From: jonnylee_in_florida at yahoo.com (Jonathan Squires) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:11:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <836661.554.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I finally figured it out. SteveT is just like Mork of Ork. He wants to understand the new world he's living in, but just can't grasp the concepts because he hasn't looked at the facts of history. Prove that ANY Dem has not taxed and spent our nation into financial Hell with their new programs! I dare ya. Jonathan (who was just accepted into the Police Academy and ain't takin' shite off liberals anymore!) Message: 8 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:36:23 -0500 From: Steve Litt Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad To: Central Florida Geeks Message-ID: <200802041636.23416.slitt at troubleshooters.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Monday 04 February 2008 14:47, Kevin Korb wrote: > I feel the same way. > Last time I refused to vote for either candidate (yes, I voted > libertarian) but I did have an opinion on which one I wanted to win. I > didn't really want them to win I just hated one slightly less than the > other. This time I am not even sure I can form an opinion as to which > evil is lesser. I may end up rooting for the less competent candidate > in the hopes that their evil plans will simply fail. Bad idea. Bush was the most incompetent ever, and his plans all failed, but he left us in debt, with an exhausted milary, rotting infrastructure, and a very angry citizenry. SteveT ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:43:59 -0500 From: Steve Litt Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Y'know it's really sad To: Central Florida Geeks Message-ID: <200802041644.00089.slitt at troubleshooters.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Monday 04 February 2008 14:40, Gilbert Young wrote: > I don't like any of the candidates. It's like the country is just > choosing someone to keep the seat warm and no other reason. > > > Clinton/Obama want to spend spend spend >I guarantee you they'll spend far less than the current clown, and I >think it's likely they'll spend less than McCain. I bet your eyes are brown >They said Bill Clinton wanted to spend, spend spend, yet he was the >first >president since Nixon to run a surplus budget. I think Hillary and >Barack >might do the same thing. > McCain seems to be turning out to be untrustworthy, and not firm on > certain key issues. > I trust him, Danger Will Robinson!!! - anytime a liberal trusts a Republican candidate, true conservatives need to Run Away, Run Away! >but don't like what he says he wants to do. >He wants to continue the war ad infinitum. Tell you what Litt, when the terrorists come for you and your wife and kids, you can tell them you supported them and believe in their way of life. Although you'll have to bow down and worship allah, AND MEAN IT! or die. We either stop them there or here. Which one do you think is easier, based on history, that is? Our country has neither the financial, military or citizen committment resources to do that. He says he wants everyone to get their own healthcare in the private sector like that's some kind of new idea. He doesn't get that we've been trying that since the 1940's, and if you keep doing the same thing, you'll keep getting the same results. Or else he gets it and likes the results we're getting now. > Mitt and/or Huckabee just don't have what it takes, IMHO, to lead the > country I don't want a president who passes judgement on what I do in my bedroom. I've got a wife to do that :-) > Ron Paul is borderline radical when it comes to fiscal policy. He's a Libertarian. No wait, he's a Republican. No a Libertarian. No, a Republican. What he actually is is irrelevent. SteveT Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1202181443.7005.3.camel@qward> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:59 -0500, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now > so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend > for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) > > I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one > which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. OK, assuming from that last that you're not looking to pay for support, I'd say Ubuntu and stick with one of the LTS releases; 6.06 was the last one, 8.04 will be the next. Next would be Debian. If you're supporting RedHat at work, Centos is a good choice. Ubuntu's strength is the long term of support on the LTS releases; that's what it stands for. Also, since it's got money behind it, you know it's not dropping off the face of the earth. Debian concentrates on different things than Ubuntu but is beloved by the community, it's not going anywhere either. Centos is RedHat with the serial numbers filed off. Good choice if you have RedHat at work, and usually if you find a problem you can reproduce it at work and leech the support contract. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080204/4a850437/attachment.pgp From mdb at cfl.rr.com Mon Feb 4 18:27:36 2008 From: mdb at cfl.rr.com (Michael Derek Barnett) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:27:36 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A79F68.60107@cfl.rr.com> Kevin Inscoe wrote: > To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now > so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend > for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) > > I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one > which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. > If you're looking for something new, I'd suggest checking out arch. http://www.archlinux.org/ Arch has many of the benefits of the source based distros, you pretty much set it up from the ground up to do exactly what you want it to do, but the default style of packaging is binary rather than source (of course, you can compile whatever suits your fancy.) Their package manager is quite good, works similarly to apt. Their wiki documentation isn't as good as gentoo's is (was? been awhile since I really looked) but it's decent, and their forums are very active with a good sized userbase. Lots of prebuilt packages to choose from. Other than that, I don't know that things have really changed all that much from the last time you went looking. Debian is still huge, and while there are alot of distros which are built off of debian these days, I don't know that any of them are any better than the original as far as running a server is concerned. If you want a debian based desktop and can live with sudo then linuxmint is definately the way to go. I've spent the last couple of months testing distros pretty heavily. I am still using opensuse for my real computer use. There are alot of good choices out there, but when it comes down to it, I don't think the landscape has really changed much, it's just got a big ubuntu colored shadow looming over it. Derek -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080204/c6fe1db4/attachment.pgp From kmk at sanitarium.net Mon Feb 4 22:26:52 2008 From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:26:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I would have to vote for Gentoo. There will be times when it will cause some extra work (you may have to make some ebuilds of your own and you may have to do some reasearch or testing to avoid bad side effects of upgrades). However, in the long run the infinite upgradeability and the ability to switch out any core component without causing a house of cards style collapse is unbeatable. Of course if you never ever plan to do anything outside of the norm then you can just stick to RHEL/CentOS/Ubuntu whatever. Also, don't count out the BSDs. - -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:59:12 -0500 > From: Kevin Inscoe > To: Central Florida Geeks > Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? > > To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now > so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend > for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) > > I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one > which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp9d9VKC1jlbQAQcRAocUAKCwWLR7A8p+8kghH1cAvof/FZMbDwCfdpKD diuWdBJu/iucwI+OODEhWbs= =XuXf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kmk at sanitarium.net Mon Feb 4 22:28:23 2008 From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:28:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <47A7C214.5080002@iamgraham.net> References: <5E777FBD-2B98-44CB-AD2E-AEFA29F31FE6@cfl.rr.com> <47A7C214.5080002@iamgraham.net> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Graham Christensen wrote: > Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:55:32 -0500 > From: Graham Christensen > To: Central Florida Geeks > Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? > > I personally use Gentoo on my servers. They are generally kept quite up > to date, and with a few servers + distccd + ccache the compiling isn't > even a big deal. When I finish the Gentoo install, I make a mirror of > the drive, configure it, and mirror it again, just so I don't need to > spend that time later on. Exactly. I have only done a Gentoo install a few times. Once you have a Gentoo box you really only need to do another install if you need a different arch. Other than that you can just clone boxes to save time. > > The documentation is 2nd to none in my experience, with excellent > documentation regarding nearly anything I've had to do. On top of that, > packages arn't difficult to create yourself, including applying patches > to the code, etc. Actually, the documentation for OpenBSD is better but Gentoo's isn't bad. > > On top of that, the community is generally quite skilled with Gentoo, > and is quick/efficient at helping. > > Graham Christensen > > http://itrebal.com - Customized Web Hosting > Graham.Christensen at iamgraham.net > > > > Gilbert Young wrote: >> On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Kevin Inscoe wrote: >> >> >>> To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now >>> so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend >>> for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) >>> >>> I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one >>> which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. >>> >> >> >> I don't think that exists today. IMHO progressive Linux distros are >> generally short-lived, costly, thankless, and generally unstable. >> >> I'd just go for stable and load a good package manager on it. >> >> Heh who am I kidding, i'd go for OS X and y'all know it :). >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> cfgeeks mailing list >> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks >> >> > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > - -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp9fXVKC1jlbQAQcRAsIfAJ0Z0u8tn3/1UKDgrWxIQRTajDAoSwCfdfYE o9DcdjbIYwdxcLSiTSoBYZw= =TNIm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kmk at sanitarium.net Mon Feb 4 22:30:39 2008 From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:30:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <8C59947D-F15C-4E40-86A2-AE9FF49B7877@amsat.org> References: <8C59947D-F15C-4E40-86A2-AE9FF49B7877@amsat.org> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have never really gotten the point of CentOS. It is RedHat without RedHat's support. The only reason to run RedHat is for the support. - -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Aaron Morrison wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:47:15 -0500 > From: Aaron Morrison > To: Central Florida Geeks > Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? > > My picks... > > CentOS - RedHat without Red Hat... essentially RHEL with a > community.... centos.org > Ubuntu-LTS (LTS=Long Term Support) if you like the Debian style > packaging... > > --am > > > On 04 Feb 2008, at 16:59, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > >> To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now >> so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend >> for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) >> >> I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one >> which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. >> >> -- >> Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN >> Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W >> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com >> Skype: ke3vin >> _______________________________________________ >> cfgeeks mailing list >> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org >> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp9hgVKC1jlbQAQcRAnBBAKDQxWH9HbA+zloJ0QufcTs2nJj5hwCdFCAs R4urinRY9j1osWcu6gVoR2E= =OMc/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kmk at sanitarium.net Mon Feb 4 22:33:56 2008 From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:33:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <1202181443.7005.3.camel@qward> References: <1202181443.7005.3.camel@qward> Message-ID: Yeah, Ubuntu LTS has such loooong term support. 5 whole years. BFD. In 3 years it will be too obsolete to operate on new hardware or with new applications anyways. I prefer a distro that is constantly updated at the package level and has no such thing as a release upgrade. In 5 years my Gentoo system will still be current and I will have never reinstalled or release upgraded it. -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:17:23 -0500 > From: Shawn McMahon > To: cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:59 -0500, Kevin Inscoe wrote: >> To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now >> so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend >> for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) >> >> I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one >> which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. > > OK, assuming from that last that you're not looking to pay for support, > I'd say Ubuntu and stick with one of the LTS releases; 6.06 was the last > one, 8.04 will be the next. > > Next would be Debian. > > If you're supporting RedHat at work, Centos is a good choice. > > Ubuntu's strength is the long term of support on the LTS releases; > that's what it stands for. Also, since it's got money behind it, you > know it's not dropping off the face of the earth. > > Debian concentrates on different things than Ubuntu but is beloved by > the community, it's not going anywhere either. > > Centos is RedHat with the serial numbers filed off. Good choice if you > have RedHat at work, and usually if you find a problem you can reproduce > it at work and leech the support contract. > From syberghost at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 22:35:10 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:35:10 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: References: <8C59947D-F15C-4E40-86A2-AE9FF49B7877@amsat.org> Message-ID: <1202182510.7204.3.camel@qward> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:30 -0500, Kevin Korb wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have never really gotten the point of CentOS. It is RedHat without > RedHat's support. The only reason to run RedHat is for the support. If you support RedHat at work, CentOS is good because it keeps you in practice. You solve a problem at home, you've solved it at work, and vice versa. That's true of other distros, of course, but less so. Also, like I suggested earlier, if you figure out how to reproduce the problem at work, you can leech your support agreement. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://mail.cfgeeks.org/pipermail/cfgeeks/attachments/20080204/18c68982/attachment.pgp From syberghost at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 22:38:25 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:38:25 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: References: <1202181443.7005.3.camel@qward> Message-ID: <1202182705.7204.7.camel@qward> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:33 -0500, Kevin Korb wrote: > Yeah, Ubuntu LTS has such loooong term support. 5 whole years. BFD. > In 3 years it will be too obsolete to operate on new hardware or with > new applications anyways. I prefer a distro that is constantly updated > at the package level and has no such thing as a release upgrade. In 5 > years my Gentoo system will still be current and I will have never > reinstalled or release upgraded it. If I did that my developers would slit my throat for all their APIs changing every couple of months. He's saying "server" and you're hearing the situation where you work, and I'm hearing the situation where I work. Maybe we should have asked him what HE meant. :) Besides, in five years your Gentoo system won't have updates anymore 'cause Gentoo will be gone. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:35:10 -0500 > From: Shawn McMahon > To: cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:30 -0500, Kevin Korb wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I have never really gotten the point of CentOS. It is RedHat without >> RedHat's support. The only reason to run RedHat is for the support. > > If you support RedHat at work, CentOS is good because it keeps you in > practice. You solve a problem at home, you've solved it at work, and > vice versa. That's true of other distros, of course, but less so. > > Also, like I suggested earlier, if you figure out how to reproduce the > problem at work, you can leech your support agreement. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp9pxVKC1jlbQAQcRAgoiAJ0XDnKN13dc4FzcvZshVlFW4TKtMACg4KTC HlukwpJgnd/wmY0J3fBazZc= =xO0V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kmk at sanitarium.net Mon Feb 4 22:41:33 2008 From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:41:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <1202182705.7204.7.camel@qward> References: <1202181443.7005.3.camel@qward> <1202182705.7204.7.camel@qward> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Funny, that is what they said back in 2003 when I started using Gentoo. It is still around and it has an even bigger following now. In 5 years the shape of Gentoo will probably change a bit but it will still be there and my current install which I did back in 2003 will be upgradable to it. - -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. Kevin at FutureQuest.net (work) Orlando, Florida kmk at sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: http://www.sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Shawn McMahon wrote: > Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:38:25 -0500 > From: Shawn McMahon > To: cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? > > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:33 -0500, Kevin Korb wrote: >> Yeah, Ubuntu LTS has such loooong term support. 5 whole years. BFD. >> In 3 years it will be too obsolete to operate on new hardware or with >> new applications anyways. I prefer a distro that is constantly updated >> at the package level and has no such thing as a release upgrade. In 5 >> years my Gentoo system will still be current and I will have never >> reinstalled or release upgraded it. > > If I did that my developers would slit my throat for all their APIs > changing every couple of months. He's saying "server" and you're > hearing the situation where you work, and I'm hearing the situation > where I work. > > Maybe we should have asked him what HE meant. :) > > Besides, in five years your Gentoo system won't have updates anymore > 'cause Gentoo will be gone. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp9ruVKC1jlbQAQcRAikbAKCv5jWdBHgM/gHSUESM5JWVFXPBvQCgrLs3 wx2NkQrXZ7PVqc56Xm8a+e0= =8B6C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From graham.christensen at iamgraham.net Mon Feb 4 22:44:55 2008 From: graham.christensen at iamgraham.net (Graham Christensen) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:44:55 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <1202182705.7204.7.camel@qward> References: <1202181443.7005.3.camel@qward> <1202182705.7204.7.camel@qward> Message-ID: <47A7DBB7.1030807@iamgraham.net> Gentoo has an advanced system to hold back packages from upgrades; I've been on both sides of that, the developer who's pissed at the software upgrading, as well as the developer who's pissed about the software being old; you can't win :P Also, its true that the legal side of Gentoo is having problems of sorts. Graham Christensen http://itrebal.com - Customized Web Hosting Graham.Christensen at iamgraham.net Shawn McMahon wrote: > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:33 -0500, Kevin Korb wrote: > >> Yeah, Ubuntu LTS has such loooong term support. 5 whole years. BFD. >> In 3 years it will be too obsolete to operate on new hardware or with >> new applications anyways. I prefer a distro that is constantly updated >> at the package level and has no such thing as a release upgrade. In 5 >> years my Gentoo system will still be current and I will have never >> reinstalled or release upgraded it. >> > > If I did that my developers would slit my throat for all their APIs > changing every couple of months. He's saying "server" and you're > hearing the situation where you work, and I'm hearing the situation > where I work. > > Maybe we should have asked him what HE meant. :) > > Besides, in five years your Gentoo system won't have updates anymore > 'cause Gentoo will be gone. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > From syberghost at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 22:55:42 2008 From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:55:42 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <47A7DBB7.1030807@iamgraham.net> References: <1202181443.7005.3.camel@qward> <1202182705.7204.7.camel@qward> <47A7DBB7.1030807@iamgraham.net> Message-ID: <1202183742.7204.10.camel@qward> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:44 -0500, Graham Christensen wrote: > > Also, its true that the legal side of Gentoo is having problems of sorts. Had problems, past tense. Currently there isn't a legal side to Gentoo to have problems. They say in a month or so they'll have a legal side again, so they can have problems again. :) That is if they can figure out who's eligible for elections and who isn't. They managed to scare/piss their founder off again. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(not just so and so sux0r - >> useless) >> I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one >> which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. I run a seriously hacked Ubuntu that now is more plain Debian. (I broke it) Also started running PC-BSD but not really liken KDE that much. regards, // David // -- David Billsbrough (KC4ZVW) Chuluota, Florida grid: EL98kp AVR * Duckworks * FreeBSD * Linux * PICmicro * QRP * TAPR From slitt at troubleshooters.com Mon Feb 4 23:53:54 2008 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:53:54 -0500 Subject: [cfgeeks] Best linux distro for server work? In-Reply-To: <8C59947D-F15C-4E40-86A2-AE9FF49B7877@amsat.org> References: <8C59947D-F15C-4E40-86A2-AE9FF49B7877@amsat.org> Message-ID: <200802042353.54937.slitt@troubleshooters.com> Does CentOS have a big array of apps that come with the installation media? Is it a good desktop OS? SteveT On Monday 04 February 2008 20:47, Aaron Morrison wrote: > My picks... > > CentOS - RedHat without Red Hat... essentially RHEL with a > community.... centos.org > Ubuntu-LTS (LTS=Long Term Support) if you like the Debian style > packaging... > > --am > > On 04 Feb 2008, at 16:59, Kevin Inscoe wrote: > > To get us back on topic.. this has had my head working for a while now > > so I will open it up to input. What Linux distro would you recommend > > for server work AND WHY? (not just so and so sux0r - useless) > > > > I am looking for a progressive and well supported by community one > > which from what I can tell would rule out Gentoo and Redhat. > > > > -- > > Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN > > Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W > > kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com > > Skype: ke3vin > > _______________________________________________ > > cfgeeks mailing list > > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks > > _______________________________________________ > cfgeeks mailing list > cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org > http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks From kmk at sanitarium.net Mon