From kevin at inscoe.org  Tue Jul  1 08:12:13 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:12:13 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Good article on sun spots for radio geeks
Message-ID: <486A1F1D.3010804@inscoe.org>

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http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/where-have-all-the-sunspots-gone/

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Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Thu Jul  3 08:30:56 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:30:56 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Since it turns out my job to announce these things...
Message-ID: <486CC680.9000304@inscoe.org>

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Earth will be at Aphelion July 4 at 04:00 ET.

That is all. Good day.

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Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Thu Jul  3 10:46:28 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:46:28 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90807030746l3aeee051r20fc454cb23fa60e@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/07/02/broadband.study.ap/index.html

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From kevin at inscoe.org  Thu Jul  3 15:47:26 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:47:26 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Radioshack recall on power supplies
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90807031247t6e0578efqd7daddaeb61ee405@mail.gmail.com>

Swell I have at least one of those...


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From: elappi at netzero.com <elappi at netzero.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Subject: [QRP-L] Fw: [PVRC] ANOTHER FINE PRODUCT MADE IN CHINA!
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U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs
Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 2, 2008
Release #08-319

Firm's Recall Hotline: (800) 843-7422
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due to Electrocution and Fire Hazards

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in
cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall
of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled
products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product:  13.8V DC Power Supplies

Units:  About 160,000

Importer:  RadioShack Corp., of Fort Worth, Texas

Hazard:  The recalled power supplies are wired incorrectly, posing
electrocution and fire hazards.

Incidents/Injuries:  None reported.

Description:  The recall involves RadioShack 13.8V DC Power Supplies,
catalog numbers 22-507 and 22-508 with date codes from 08A04 through 01A08.

Date code format is MMAYY where MM is the month and YY is the year. The
catalog number and date code are located on the back of the power supply.
Power Supplies with a green dot on the product and the product's packaging
have already been repaired and are not included in the recall.

Sold at:  RadioShack stores nationwide from October 2004 through January
2008 for between $50 and $85.

Manufactured in: China

Remedy:  Consumers should unplug the recalled power supply immediately and
take it to any RadioShack store for a free repair. Registered owners of the
recalled power supplies will be mailed a notice.

Consumer Contact:  For additional information, contact RadioShack at
800-843-7422 anytime, or visit the firm's website at:

        http://www.radioshack.com/recall

To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the recalled
products, please go to:

        http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtm108/08319.html

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kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From cfg at davehudson.net  Fri Jul  4 09:43:32 2008
From: cfg at davehudson.net (Dave Hudson)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:43:32 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
In-Reply-To: <e8ce78c90807030746l3aeee051r20fc454cb23fa60e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e8ce78c90807030746l3aeee051r20fc454cb23fa60e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003601c8dddb$f3a6cb70$daf46250$@net>

"Thirty-five percent say they're still on dial-up because broadband prices
are too high,"

Hello --- there's your answer and I would have to say I agree.  Why is broad
band still so expensive?

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:46 AM
To: Central Florida Geeks
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/07/02/broadband.study.ap/index.html

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Fri Jul  4 11:05:14 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:05:14 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
In-Reply-To: <003601c8dddb$f3a6cb70$daf46250$@net>
References: <e8ce78c90807030746l3aeee051r20fc454cb23fa60e@mail.gmail.com>
	<003601c8dddb$f3a6cb70$daf46250$@net>
Message-ID: <200807041105.14762.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

On Friday 04 July 2008 09:43, Dave Hudson wrote:
> "Thirty-five percent say they're still on dial-up because broadband prices
> are too high,"
>
> Hello --- there's your answer and I would have to say I agree.  Why is
> broad band still so expensive?

I think this is several different situations. If you live in Texas it isn't 
expensive at all -- it was about twenty bucks a month when I visited Texas in 
2004. Here in OTown, Brighthouse is 45 bucks a month (7mbs down), which I 
consider expensive. However, when I got broadband 3 weeks ago, I was able to 
save 34 bucks a month on my second phone line (I didn't realize it was that 
expensive, or I would have gotten broadband earlier). However, when someone 
lives in the boonies, or in an area without competition (here where I live we 
have  a choice between Brighthouse and Embarq), it could run up to 3 figures 
for lousy service. That can be a budget buster.

Besides the money issue, there's the lock-in issue. If you go Embarq for high 
speed, you sign up for a year and pay a substantial early termination 
penalty. At 40 bucks a month, if Embarq gives lousy service, you could be out 
almost a thousand bucks the second you sign the contract. Brighthouse is 
different -- I can quit them any time I want, and as long as I return their 
modem, I pay only for the months I used. That was by far the most important 
factor in my choosing Brighthouse over Embarq. If Embarq had been month to 
month, I'd have gone with them a year ago.

I had another motivation for staying with dialup -- competition. I can name 
you 10 suitable dialup vendors, and could probably research another 40. The 
competition keeps prices low, and when quality lags, you just switch. With 
broadband, in my neighborhood there are two choices: Brighthouse and Embarq. 
If I get mad at one, I have only one place to go. If I get mad at both, I'm 
out of the game unless I move.

There's another issue, and I think you guys can understand. You know how 
software has bloated over the years, and you've had to spend more money on 
machines and endure ever more glitches because it's bloated? Websites have 
bloated too. The average pissant info website today has hundreds of thousands 
or millions of bytes of gratuitous, unnecessary graphics. If a guy in rurual 
North Dakota or Ethiopia can't read it, what do they care? There's a part of 
me that resents the hell out of that, and I basically boycotted slow 
downloading sites.

The trouble is, eventually even the sites I really needed on a daily basis 
(paypal for instance) took a minute to download, cramping my productivity. 
Like it or not, I had to go broadband.

As a webmaster, I want to make sure that Troubleshooters.Com is snappy on a 
44kbs connection. One way to do that was to test it on dialup.

In summary, I don't think resistance to broadband is one size fits all. Cost 
is certainly a factor, especially in rural areas and areas with only one 
broadband vendor. There are other factors, must of which have to do with the 
fact that a handful of organizations have a monopoly on the last mile.

SteveT


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:46 AM
> To: Central Florida Geeks
> Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/07/02/broadband.study.ap/index.html

-- 
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http://www.troubleshooters.com/utp/utpfaq.htm
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http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/ttech.htm
Author: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist

From kmk at sanitarium.net  Fri Jul  4 11:15:41 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:15:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
In-Reply-To: <200807041105.14762.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <e8ce78c90807030746l3aeee051r20fc454cb23fa60e@mail.gmail.com>
	<003601c8dddb$f3a6cb70$daf46250$@net>
	<200807041105.14762.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807041114520.18987@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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I believe you were told several times at GOLUG dinners that a second
phone line was around $30.  Thre is even a $10 "you have more than one
phone line" tax.

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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Steve Litt wrote:

> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:05:14 -0400
> From: Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
> 
> On Friday 04 July 2008 09:43, Dave Hudson wrote:
>> "Thirty-five percent say they're still on dial-up because broadband prices
>> are too high,"
>>
>> Hello --- there's your answer and I would have to say I agree.  Why is
>> broad band still so expensive?
>
> I think this is several different situations. If you live in Texas it isn't
> expensive at all -- it was about twenty bucks a month when I visited Texas in
> 2004. Here in OTown, Brighthouse is 45 bucks a month (7mbs down), which I
> consider expensive. However, when I got broadband 3 weeks ago, I was able to
> save 34 bucks a month on my second phone line (I didn't realize it was that
> expensive, or I would have gotten broadband earlier). However, when someone
> lives in the boonies, or in an area without competition (here where I live we
> have  a choice between Brighthouse and Embarq), it could run up to 3 figures
> for lousy service. That can be a budget buster.
>
> Besides the money issue, there's the lock-in issue. If you go Embarq for high
> speed, you sign up for a year and pay a substantial early termination
> penalty. At 40 bucks a month, if Embarq gives lousy service, you could be out
> almost a thousand bucks the second you sign the contract. Brighthouse is
> different -- I can quit them any time I want, and as long as I return their
> modem, I pay only for the months I used. That was by far the most important
> factor in my choosing Brighthouse over Embarq. If Embarq had been month to
> month, I'd have gone with them a year ago.
>
> I had another motivation for staying with dialup -- competition. I can name
> you 10 suitable dialup vendors, and could probably research another 40. The
> competition keeps prices low, and when quality lags, you just switch. With
> broadband, in my neighborhood there are two choices: Brighthouse and Embarq.
> If I get mad at one, I have only one place to go. If I get mad at both, I'm
> out of the game unless I move.
>
> There's another issue, and I think you guys can understand. You know how
> software has bloated over the years, and you've had to spend more money on
> machines and endure ever more glitches because it's bloated? Websites have
> bloated too. The average pissant info website today has hundreds of thousands
> or millions of bytes of gratuitous, unnecessary graphics. If a guy in rurual
> North Dakota or Ethiopia can't read it, what do they care? There's a part of
> me that resents the hell out of that, and I basically boycotted slow
> downloading sites.
>
> The trouble is, eventually even the sites I really needed on a daily basis
> (paypal for instance) took a minute to download, cramping my productivity.
> Like it or not, I had to go broadband.
>
> As a webmaster, I want to make sure that Troubleshooters.Com is snappy on a
> 44kbs connection. One way to do that was to test it on dialup.
>
> In summary, I don't think resistance to broadband is one size fits all. Cost
> is certainly a factor, especially in rural areas and areas with only one
> broadband vendor. There are other factors, must of which have to do with the
> fact that a handful of organizations have a monopoly on the last mile.
>
> SteveT
>
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Inscoe [mailto:kevin at inscoe.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:46 AM
>> To: Central Florida Geeks
>> Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/07/02/broadband.study.ap/index.html
>
>
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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Fri Jul  4 16:25:11 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:25:11 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807041114520.18987@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <e8ce78c90807030746l3aeee051r20fc454cb23fa60e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200807041105.14762.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807041114520.18987@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <200807041625.11337.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

I didn't believe you. Excuuuuuuuse me!

:-)

SteveT

On Friday 04 July 2008 11:15, Kevin Korb wrote:
> I believe you were told several times at GOLUG dinners that a second
> phone line was around $30.  Thre is even a $10 "you have more than one
> phone line" tax.

From kmk at sanitarium.net  Fri Jul  4 16:23:12 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:23:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
In-Reply-To: <200807041625.11337.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
References: <e8ce78c90807030746l3aeee051r20fc454cb23fa60e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200807041105.14762.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807041114520.18987@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<200807041625.11337.slitt@troubleshooters.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807041622350.15157@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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And you never looked at your phone bill to find out?  Not even just to
prove me the anti-liberal wrong?

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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Steve Litt wrote:

> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:25:11 -0400
> From: Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
> 
> I didn't believe you. Excuuuuuuuse me!
>
> :-)
>
> SteveT
>
> On Friday 04 July 2008 11:15, Kevin Korb wrote:
>> I believe you were told several times at GOLUG dinners that a second
>> phone line was around $30.  Thre is even a $10 "you have more than one
>> phone line" tax.
> _______________________________________________
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Sat Jul  5 08:46:42 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:46:42 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] This should keep Kevin busy for a while...
Message-ID: <486F6D32.7050506@inscoe.org>

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300237888522

I have bought used books from them before and they are legit.

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Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From syberghost at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 10:46:31 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:46:31 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
Message-ID: <486f8926.083e400a.5aa3.ffffdba3@mx.google.com>

You can have $20 broadband today.  You just have to ask for it; AT&T offers DSL at that price, it's just not on the menu.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Litt" <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
To: "Central Florida Geeks" <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
Sent: 7/4/08 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there

On Friday 04 July 2008 09:43, Dave Hudson wrote:
> "Thirty-five percent say they're still on dial-up because broadband prices
> are too high,"
>
> Hello --- there's your answer and I would have to say I agree.  Why is
> broad band still so expensive?

I think this is several different situations. If you live in Texas it isn't 
expensive at all -- it was about twenty bucks a month when I visited Texas in 
2004. Here in OTown, Brighthouse is 45 bucks a month (7mbs down), which I 
consider expensive. However, when I got broadband 3 weeks ago, I was able to 
save 34 bucks a month on my second phone line (I didn't realize it was that 
expensive, or I would have gotten broadband earlier). However, when someone 
lives in the boonies, or in an area without competition (here where I live we 
have  a choice between Brighthouse and Embarq), it could run up to 3 figures 
for lousy service. That can be a budget buster.

Besides the money issue, there's the lock-in issue. If you go Embarq for high 
speed, you sign up for a year and pay a substantial early termination 
penalty. At 40 bucks a month, if Embarq gives lousy service, you could be out 
almost a thousand bucks the second you sign the contract. Brighthouse is 
different -- I can quit them any time I want, and as long as I return their 
modem, I pay only for the months I used. That was by far the most important 
factor in my choosing Brighthouse over Embarq. If Embarq had been month to 
month, I'd have gone with them a year ago.

I had another motivation for staying with dialup -- competition. I can name 
you 10 suitable dialup vendors, and could probably research another 40. The 
competition keeps prices low, and when quality lags, you just switch. With 
broadband, in my neighborhood there are two choices: Brighthouse and Embarq. 
If I get mad at one, I have only one place to go. If I get mad at both, I'm 
out of the game unless I move.

There's another issue, and I think you guys can understand. You know how 
software has bloated over

From kevin at inscoe.org  Sat Jul  5 21:38:25 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:38:25 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] X on race night..
Message-ID: <48702211.9040901@inscoe.org>

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbXGA9gIfbA

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From slitt at troubleshooters.com  Sat Jul  5 23:33:47 2008
From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 23:33:47 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
In-Reply-To: <486f8926.083e400a.5aa3.ffffdba3@mx.google.com>
References: <486f8926.083e400a.5aa3.ffffdba3@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <200807052333.48128.slitt@troubleshooters.com>

I could have gotten $29.00 broadband from Brighthouse without the year lockin, 
but I opted to get the full 7mbs down and spend the extra $16/month. 
Subjectively, my broadband's really fast. I'm sitting here at an Athens GA 
hotel with broadband on their wifi setup, and it's really slow and theres a 
really annoying latency. Homesick already :-)

SteveT

On Saturday 05 July 2008 10:46, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> You can have $20 broadband today.  You just have to ask for it; AT&T offers
> DSL at that price, it's just not on the menu.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Steve Litt" <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
> To: "Central Florida Geeks" <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Sent: 7/4/08 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Too many Steves out there
>
> On Friday 04 July 2008 09:43, Dave Hudson wrote:
> > "Thirty-five percent say they're still on dial-up because broadband
> > prices are too high,"
> >
> > Hello --- there's your answer and I would have to say I agree.  Why is
> > broad band still so expensive?
>
> I think this is several different situations. If you live in Texas it isn't
> expensive at all -- it was about twenty bucks a month when I visited Texas
> in 2004. Here in OTown, Brighthouse is 45 bucks a month (7mbs down), which
> I consider expensive. However, when I got broadband 3 weeks ago, I was able
> to save 34 bucks a month on my second phone line (I didn't realize it was
> that expensive, or I would have gotten broadband earlier). However, when
> someone lives in the boonies, or in an area without competition (here where
> I live we have  a choice between Brighthouse and Embarq), it could run up
> to 3 figures for lousy service. That can be a budget buster.
>
> Besides the money issue, there's the lock-in issue. If you go Embarq for
> high speed, you sign up for a year and pay a substantial early termination
> penalty. At 40 bucks a month, if Embarq gives lousy service, you could be
> out almost a thousand bucks the second you sign the contract. Brighthouse
> is different -- I can quit them any time I want, and as long as I return
> their modem, I pay only for the months I used. That was by far the most
> important factor in my choosing Brighthouse over Embarq. If Embarq had been
> month to month, I'd have gone with them a year ago.
>
> I had another motivation for staying with dialup -- competition. I can name
> you 10 suitable dialup vendors, and could probably research another 40. The
> competition keeps prices low, and when quality lags, you just switch. With
> broadband, in my neighborhood there are two choices: Brighthouse and
> Embarq. If I get mad at one, I have only one place to go. If I get mad at
> both, I'm out of the game unless I move.
>
> There's another issue, and I think you guys can understand. You know how
> software has bloated over
> _______________________________________________
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Sun Jul  6 07:44:24 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:44:24 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] [Fwd: [gentoo-announce] Gentoo Linux 2008.0 released]
Message-ID: <4870B018.2080802@inscoe.org>

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"Code-named "It's got what plants crave,"

- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gentoo-announce] Gentoo Linux 2008.0 released
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:44:49 -0700
From: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz at gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-announce at lists.gentoo.org

The 2008.0 final release is out! Code-named "It's got what plants
crave," this release contains numerous new features including an updated
installer [1], improved hardware support, a complete rework of profiles,
and a move to Xfce instead of GNOME on the LiveCD. LiveDVDs are not
available for x86 or amd64, although they may become available in the
future. The 2008.0 release also includes updated versions of many
packages already available in your ebuild tree.

~ * Updated installer: The installer now only performs networkless
~ installations using the packages and ebuild tree on the LiveCD. It also
~ contains numerous fixes for extended and logical partitions.

~ * Improved hardware support: Moving to the 2.6.24 kernel added many new
~ drivers for hardware released since the 2007.0 release.

~ * Complete rework of profiles: Restructuring profiles allowed
~ significant cleanup of redundancies, reducing developer maintenance and
~ confusion. The difference for you is that profiles now appear in
~ /usr/portage/profiles/ under default/linux/ instead of default-linux/.
~ See the upgrading guide [2] for more details.

~ * Xfce instead of GNOME on the LiveCD: To save space, the LiveCDs
~ switched to the smaller Xfce environment. This means that a binary
~ installation using the LiveCD will install Xfce, but you're still free
~ to build GNOME or KDE from source.

~ * No LiveDVDs on x86 or amd64: In the interest of getting the release
~ out, the release engineering team [3] decided to postpone LiveDVDs
~ because of problems in their generation. They may show up later???if so,
~ we'll let you know.

~ * Updated packages: Highlights of the 2008.0 release include Portage
~ 2.1.4.4 [4], a 2.6.24 kernel, Xfce 4.4.2, gcc 4.1.2 and glibc 2.6.1.

A big thanks goes out to our release engineering team members [3] for
their hard work over many months to turn 2008.0 into reality.

Get the new release from our "Get Gentoo!" page [5].

Discuss this [6]!

1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/
2. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
3. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/
4. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/
5. http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
6. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-699099.html

- --
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com


- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Sun Jul  6 12:32:47 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:32:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807061231220.8136@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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I just finished expanding my big RAID5 on an Areca controller by adding
a 5th disk to it and going from 3TB to 4TB.  I took screenshots and a
script which I thought you guys might enjoy seeing.
http://www.sanitarium.net/RAIDExpansion/

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
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From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jul  6 13:28:08 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:28:08 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] A language worth learning...
Message-ID: <5E5E1373-C17E-4B5A-97C7-1229E7763C8E@cfl.rr.com>

If you "think big"

http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/07/06/1239218.shtml



From john at mayson.us  Sun Jul  6 18:37:34 2008
From: john at mayson.us (John Mayson)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:37:34 -0500
Subject: [cfgeeks] A language worth learning...
In-Reply-To: <5E5E1373-C17E-4B5A-97C7-1229E7763C8E@cfl.rr.com>
References: <5E5E1373-C17E-4B5A-97C7-1229E7763C8E@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <6645152a0807061537x6495ad11qcd045fc721047b54@mail.gmail.com>

Esperanto?  :-)

-- 
John Mayson <john at mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

From kmk at sanitarium.net  Sun Jul  6 21:43:34 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:43:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] DTGil
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062142290.23986@asylum.sanitarium.net>

Gil,
I know you like horrible things like named and sendmail but did you
really have to go out and find the least secure service there is?

norad# ftp ftp.crc.com
Connected to ftp.crc.com (208.9.202.123).
220 hobbes2 FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Mon Sep 18 12:32:49 EDT
2006) ready.


-- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jul  6 23:28:01 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:28:01 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] DTGil
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062142290.23986@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062142290.23986@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <0BE9D015-E4EF-443F-96A1-CC35146AF2A9@cfl.rr.com>

That is what it says... but it is something else :).


On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:

> Gil,
> I know you like horrible things like named and sendmail but did you
> really have to go out and find the least secure service there is?
>
> norad# ftp ftp.crc.com
> Connected to ftp.crc.com (208.9.202.123).
> 220 hobbes2 FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Mon Sep 18 12:32:49 EDT
> 2006) ready.
>
>
> --  
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From kmk at sanitarium.net  Sun Jul  6 23:34:38 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:34:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] DTGil
In-Reply-To: <0BE9D015-E4EF-443F-96A1-CC35146AF2A9@cfl.rr.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062142290.23986@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<0BE9D015-E4EF-443F-96A1-CC35146AF2A9@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062334270.26809@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Ahh, interesting.  Sounds like a challenge :P

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Gilbert Young wrote:

> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:28:01 -0400
> From: Gilbert Young <gjyoung at cfl.rr.com>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] DTGil
> 
> That is what it says... but it is something else :).
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>
>> Gil,
>> I know you like horrible things like named and sendmail but did you
>> really have to go out and find the least secure service there is?
>>
>> norad# ftp ftp.crc.com
>> Connected to ftp.crc.com (208.9.202.123).
>> 220 hobbes2 FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Mon Sep 18 12:32:49 EDT
>> 2006) ready.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
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From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jul  6 23:36:13 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:36:13 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] IAFurryT
Message-ID: <96A19C36-F521-4A01-BD00-77B9F444776B@cfl.rr.com>

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/06/america/pets.php



From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Sun Jul  6 23:40:20 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:40:20 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] DTGil
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062334270.26809@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062142290.23986@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<0BE9D015-E4EF-443F-96A1-CC35146AF2A9@cfl.rr.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062334270.26809@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <ABA88D6D-0388-444F-9A0E-479B4AC7ECCD@cfl.rr.com>

Do keep in mind that while I know you'd be white-hatting,  i'm not  
sure what L-3 proper would think/do if they saw it happening ;).


On Jul 6, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:

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> Ahh, interesting.  Sounds like a challenge :P
>
> - --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Gilbert Young wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:28:01 -0400
>> From: Gilbert Young <gjyoung at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] DTGil
>>
>> That is what it says... but it is something else :).
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>
>>> Gil,
>>> I know you like horrible things like named and sendmail but did you
>>> really have to go out and find the least secure service there is?
>>>
>>> norad# ftp ftp.crc.com
>>> Connected to ftp.crc.com (208.9.202.123).
>>> 220 hobbes2 FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Mon Sep 18 12:32:49 EDT
>>> 2006) ready.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
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> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From kmk at sanitarium.net  Mon Jul  7 00:02:36 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:02:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] DTGil
In-Reply-To: <ABA88D6D-0388-444F-9A0E-479B4AC7ECCD@cfl.rr.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062142290.23986@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<0BE9D015-E4EF-443F-96A1-CC35146AF2A9@cfl.rr.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807062334270.26809@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<ABA88D6D-0388-444F-9A0E-479B4AC7ECCD@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807070002280.27581@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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I wasn't actually planning to.

- -- 
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 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Gilbert Young wrote:

> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:40:20 -0400
> From: Gilbert Young <gjyoung at cfl.rr.com>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] DTGil
> 
> Do keep in mind that while I know you'd be white-hatting,  i'm not
> sure what L-3 proper would think/do if they saw it happening ;).
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Ahh, interesting.  Sounds like a challenge :P
>>
>> - --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Gilbert Young wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:28:01 -0400
>>> From: Gilbert Young <gjyoung at cfl.rr.com>
>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] DTGil
>>>
>>> That is what it says... but it is something else :).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gil,
>>>> I know you like horrible things like named and sendmail but did you
>>>> really have to go out and find the least secure service there is?
>>>>
>>>> norad# ftp ftp.crc.com
>>>> Connected to ftp.crc.com (208.9.202.123).
>>>> 220 hobbes2 FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Mon Sep 18 12:32:49 EDT
>>>> 2006) ready.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Jul  7 08:31:06 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:31:06 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Good news everybody...I.T. it ain't about tech any more...
Message-ID: <48720C8A.5060504@inscoe.org>

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.. we are now "social scientists".

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=648

<Insert witty quote about truck driving school>

- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Jul  7 08:44:05 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:44:05 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807061231220.8136@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807061231220.8136@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <48720F95.5060902@inscoe.org>

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Which controller are you using? How do you (or do you) back this puppy
up? granted it's RAID but it's also a single controller right?

Kevin Korb wrote:
| I just finished expanding my big RAID5 on an Areca controller by adding
| a 5th disk to it and going from 3TB to 4TB.  I took screenshots and a
| script which I thought you guys might enjoy seeing.
| http://www.sanitarium.net/RAIDExpansion/
|

_______________________________________________
cfgeeks mailing list
cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks



- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Jul  7 08:46:51 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:46:51 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] A language worth learning...
In-Reply-To: <5E5E1373-C17E-4B5A-97C7-1229E7763C8E@cfl.rr.com>
References: <5E5E1373-C17E-4B5A-97C7-1229E7763C8E@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4872103B.4000801@inscoe.org>

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The only thing that would make this better would be narrated by John Cleese

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKfKtXYLG78

Gilbert Young wrote:
| If you "think big"
|
| http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/07/06/1239218.shtml
|
|
| _______________________________________________
| cfgeeks mailing list
| cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
| http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
|


- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Mon Jul  7 11:21:46 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:21:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
In-Reply-To: <48720F95.5060902@inscoe.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807061231220.8136@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<48720F95.5060902@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071119500.1072@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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It is an Areca 1120 8-port PCIX SATA RAID controller.

Normally I backup parts but not all of it to my backup RAID0 which is
only 1TB total.  Before I did this expansion I managed to make a second
copy of everything on there by filling up pretty much every other disk I
own.

Much of the data that isn't normally backed up is also archived to
CD/DVD discs but recovering from that would be a pain.

If the controller did die I would just have to buy a new one.

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:

> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:44:05 -0400
> From: Kevin P. Inscoe <kevin at inscoe.org>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
> 
> Which controller are you using? How do you (or do you) back this puppy
> up? granted it's RAID but it's also a single controller right?
>
> Kevin Korb wrote:
> | I just finished expanding my big RAID5 on an Areca controller by adding
> | a 5th disk to it and going from 3TB to 4TB.  I took screenshots and a
> | script which I thought you guys might enjoy seeing.
> | http://www.sanitarium.net/RAIDExpansion/
> |
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
>
>
> --
> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
> GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
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>
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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Mon Jul  7 11:25:32 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:25:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071119500.1072@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807061231220.8136@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<48720F95.5060902@inscoe.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071119500.1072@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071122170.1215@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Actually, the same is true of the motherboard.  It is the only one I own
with a PCIX slot so if it died I would have to buy a replacement to get
to that data.

Here is all the specs:
http://www.sanitarium.net/about/#asylum

- -- 
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 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:21:46 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
> 
> It is an Areca 1120 8-port PCIX SATA RAID controller.
>
> Normally I backup parts but not all of it to my backup RAID0 which is
> only 1TB total.  Before I did this expansion I managed to make a second
> copy of everything on there by filling up pretty much every other disk I
> own.
>
> Much of the data that isn't normally backed up is also archived to
> CD/DVD discs but recovering from that would be a pain.
>
> If the controller did die I would just have to buy a new one.
>
> --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:44:05 -0400
>> From: Kevin P. Inscoe <kevin at inscoe.org>
>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
>>
>> Which controller are you using? How do you (or do you) back this puppy
>> up? granted it's RAID but it's also a single controller right?
>>
>> Kevin Korb wrote:
>> | I just finished expanding my big RAID5 on an Areca controller by adding
>> | a 5th disk to it and going from 3TB to 4TB.  I took screenshots and a
>> | script which I thought you guys might enjoy seeing.
>> | http://www.sanitarium.net/RAIDExpansion/
>> |
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
>> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
>> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
>> GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>> gpg: Signature made Mon Jul  7 08:44:05 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 61288D53
>> gpg: Good signature from "Kevin P. Inscoe (Kevin P. Inscoe - KE3VIN - http://inscoe.org/kevin - April 08, 2003; no password) <kevin at inscoe.org>"
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
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> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
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>
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Jul  7 11:58:06 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:58:06 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071122170.1215@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807061231220.8136@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<48720F95.5060902@inscoe.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071119500.1072@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071122170.1215@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90807070858o394f2b47r882f7c5f50dd9546@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah but my main point about the raid card is the raid logic is on the
card and if you have to get one you cannot replace your basically
screwed. I like the idea but I would probably buy two or more as a
backup. I am at an archival crisis in that the raid has become my long
term backup strategy so I have to start thinking about situations like
this. But thanks for the info I like the recipe.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Actually, the same is true of the motherboard.  It is the only one I own
> with a PCIX slot so if it died I would have to buy a replacement to get
> to that data.
>
> Here is all the specs:
> http://www.sanitarium.net/about/#asylum
>
> - --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>        Kevin Korb                      Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>        Systems Administrator           Internet:
>        FutureQuest, Inc.               Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>        Orlando, Florida                kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>        Web page:                       http://www.sanitarium.net/
>        PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:21:46 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
>>
>> It is an Areca 1120 8-port PCIX SATA RAID controller.
>>
>> Normally I backup parts but not all of it to my backup RAID0 which is
>> only 1TB total.  Before I did this expansion I managed to make a second
>> copy of everything on there by filling up pretty much every other disk I
>> own.
>>
>> Much of the data that isn't normally backed up is also archived to
>> CD/DVD discs but recovering from that would be a pain.
>>
>> If the controller did die I would just have to buy a new one.
>>
>> --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>       Kevin Korb                      Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>       Systems Administrator           Internet:
>>       FutureQuest, Inc.               Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>       Orlando, Florida                kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>       Web page:                       http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>       PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:44:05 -0400
>>> From: Kevin P. Inscoe <kevin at inscoe.org>
>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
>>>
>>> Which controller are you using? How do you (or do you) back this puppy
>>> up? granted it's RAID but it's also a single controller right?
>>>
>>> Kevin Korb wrote:
>>> | I just finished expanding my big RAID5 on an Areca controller by adding
>>> | a 5th disk to it and going from 3TB to 4TB.  I took screenshots and a
>>> | script which I thought you guys might enjoy seeing.
>>> | http://www.sanitarium.net/RAIDExpansion/
>>> |
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
>>> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
>>> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
>>> GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>>> gpg: Signature made Mon Jul  7 08:44:05 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 61288D53
>>> gpg: Good signature from "Kevin P. Inscoe (Kevin P. Inscoe - KE3VIN - http://inscoe.org/kevin - April 08, 2003; no password) <kevin at inscoe.org>"
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>> gpg: Signature made Mon Jul  7 11:21:47 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 56D00107
>> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net>"
>>
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> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>



-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From kmk at sanitarium.net  Mon Jul  7 12:10:15 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:10:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
In-Reply-To: <e8ce78c90807070858o394f2b47r882f7c5f50dd9546@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807061231220.8136@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<48720F95.5060902@inscoe.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071119500.1072@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071122170.1215@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<e8ce78c90807070858o394f2b47r882f7c5f50dd9546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071202140.2601@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Unfortunately that RAID controller isn't cheap.  I paid $520 for it back
in November.  At that price tag I can't justify having a spare as RAID
controllers very rarely fail.  If they start to disapear from the market
or if the next model that Areca releases isn't backwards compatible I
will reconsider that descision (they will probably be cheaper by then
too).

The reason I went with such an expensive controller is that only the top
of the line controllers can handle the online RAID expansion.  With a
lesser controller (3Ware 8xxx, Adaptec, etc) I would have had to backup,
reformat, and restore the data.

I actually planned ahead for this situation.  I bought an 8-port card
with only 4 drives knowing that I could expand it later as needed and
when the 1TB disks would be cheaper than they were back in November.  By
the time I have it full (7TB of RAID5) I should be able to start
upgrading to 2TB disks.

The only really scarry part of this process is that fdisk can't work on
disks >2TB because the DOS partition tables it creates can't deal with
it.  You have to make a GUID Partition Table (GPT) and only parted (and
the GUI wrappers for parted) can make those.  I really don't like the
way that parted works tough.  It tries to be a Partition Magic but fails
completely.

BTW, they make a PCI Express version of my RAID controller now.  They
also have models from 4 to 32 ports.

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin Inscoe wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:58:06 -0400
> From: Kevin Inscoe <kevin at inscoe.org>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
> 
> Yeah but my main point about the raid card is the raid logic is on the
> card and if you have to get one you cannot replace your basically
> screwed. I like the idea but I would probably buy two or more as a
> backup. I am at an archival crisis in that the raid has become my long
> term backup strategy so I have to start thinking about situations like
> this. But thanks for the info I like the recipe.
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net> wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>> Actually, the same is true of the motherboard.  It is the only one I own
>> with a PCIX slot so if it died I would have to buy a replacement to get
>> to that data.
>>
>> Here is all the specs:
>> http://www.sanitarium.net/about/#asylum
>>
>> - --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>        Kevin Korb                      Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>        Systems Administrator           Internet:
>>        FutureQuest, Inc.               Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>        Orlando, Florida                kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>        Web page:                       http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>        PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:21:46 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
>>>
>>> It is an Areca 1120 8-port PCIX SATA RAID controller.
>>>
>>> Normally I backup parts but not all of it to my backup RAID0 which is
>>> only 1TB total.  Before I did this expansion I managed to make a second
>>> copy of everything on there by filling up pretty much every other disk I
>>> own.
>>>
>>> Much of the data that isn't normally backed up is also archived to
>>> CD/DVD discs but recovering from that would be a pain.
>>>
>>> If the controller did die I would just have to buy a new one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>       Kevin Korb                      Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>       Systems Administrator           Internet:
>>>       FutureQuest, Inc.               Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>       Orlando, Florida                kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>       Web page:                       http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>       PGP public key available on web site.
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>
>>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:44:05 -0400
>>>> From: Kevin P. Inscoe <kevin at inscoe.org>
>>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Expanding RAID
>>>>
>>>> Which controller are you using? How do you (or do you) back this puppy
>>>> up? granted it's RAID but it's also a single controller right?
>>>>
>>>> Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>> | I just finished expanding my big RAID5 on an Areca controller by adding
>>>> | a 5th disk to it and going from 3TB to 4TB.  I took screenshots and a
>>>> | script which I thought you guys might enjoy seeing.
>>>> | http://www.sanitarium.net/RAIDExpansion/
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
>>>> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
>>>> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
>>>> GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
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>>>> gpg: Signature made Mon Jul  7 08:44:05 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 61288D53
>>>> gpg: Good signature from "Kevin P. Inscoe (Kevin P. Inscoe - KE3VIN - http://inscoe.org/kevin - April 08, 2003; no password) <kevin at inscoe.org>"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
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>>> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net>"
>>>
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>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
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>
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 12:12:29 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:12:29 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] X on race night..
In-Reply-To: <48702211.9040901@inscoe.org>
References: <48702211.9040901@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <1215447149.7451.15.camel@qward>

On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 21:38 -0400, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbXGA9gIfbA

Shawn on race night:  row 10, about 50 seats left of the start/finish.
Both races, actually.  Took the 10YO to his first NASCAR races.

Met Denny Hamlin's mom, she's super nice and still thrilled that her
little boy has fans.


-- 
?   Shawn McMahon    | Compact florescents considered
   EIV Consulting   | harmful:
 http://www.eiv.com | http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg

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From kevin at inscoe.org  Mon Jul  7 15:20:32 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin Inscoe)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:20:32 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Oh yeah Adobe good stuff!
Message-ID: <e8ce78c90807071220i288a825dwb1073d8ca18c87ef@mail.gmail.com>

http://unexpectedlyquit.com/

-- 
Kevin P. Inscoe Amateur Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738 28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org http://kevininscoe.com
Skype: ke3vin
"Write to be understood, speak to be heard, read to grow." - Lawrence
Clark Powell

From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Mon Jul  7 17:11:32 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:11:32 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Good news everybody...I.T. it ain't about tech any
	more...
In-Reply-To: <48720C8A.5060504@inscoe.org>
References: <48720C8A.5060504@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <190ED58C-0E36-4F94-958B-4A055A75E75F@cfl.rr.com>

"?Too often, we have measurement and reward systems that are focused  
on how many transactions did you process, how many orders did you  
ship, and how many deals did you close ? rather than who helped these  
other people succeed.?"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.... oh he's serious....


Sent from a 3G connected Macbook Air going 65MPH down the Fla  
Turnpike.  Skips from cell to cell rather well!

THAT capability brought to you by engineers, not "social" IT people.

And no i'm not riving, my wife is :).



On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
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> .. we are now "social scientists".
>
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=648
>
> <Insert witty quote about truck driving school>
>
> - --
> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
> GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Mon Jul  7 17:17:21 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:17:21 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] A language worth learning...
In-Reply-To: <4872103B.4000801@inscoe.org>
References: <5E5E1373-C17E-4B5A-97C7-1229E7763C8E@cfl.rr.com>
	<4872103B.4000801@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <DA237AE1-172C-402D-A142-67762A85BA3C@cfl.rr.com>

Yes, we are a phone network traffic calculator shop, and we have no  
phone network traffic calculators.

On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> The only thing that would make this better would be narrated by John  
> Cleese
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKfKtXYLG78
>
> Gilbert Young wrote:
> | If you "think big"
> |
> | http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/07/06/1239218.shtml
> |
> |
> | _______________________________________________
> | cfgeeks mailing list
> | cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> | http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
> |
>
>
> - --
> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
> GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin
>
>
>
>
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> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From kmk at sanitarium.net  Mon Jul  7 17:30:31 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:30:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I already got my ticket.

If anyone is crazy enough to want it here is the free iTunes crap it
came with:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/itunes_email_friend?v=SsAJ0fAUZqg1UYbXUZHdEcXctG1WZH2CbS87UNLArtja4y2_Vzc5UQbeezt_e5pIj2waJ7y_gz_7C_g58Ew_2XEpybEQnhxqaKxlJPER2lFo6RXRZyxUHM0G6OktddjGxNU9raFhYQ4SFFPnJ9HOkEodM79-ono_xfOtvD285Yx1XZDnKOsHBBzaRGgx31E2Gz6266rXXbGNtd9hfoyuIBitsRz62iyvIimmVnkeZLWF6puZl5RMrp4m2TaoPZeGQrn2c214ZD64N4ZQS6T_1C46QKCRXg 
Code: WFHJ4KEMTME6

Whoever tries it first gets stuck with it.

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:

> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
> To: CFGeeks list <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Cc: Zachary Lausman <ztl at email.com>, Patrick Dowden <mach at ao.net>
> Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
> 
> Iced Earth is comming back to Orlando :)
> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220040C6C01C29FA?artistid=741150&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
> Plenty of time.  Tickets aren't even on sale yet.
>
> --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> gpg: Signature made Tue Jun 17 12:06:55 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 56D00107
> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net>"
>
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From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Mon Jul  7 17:42:12 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:42:12 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] SNORT!!!
Message-ID: <994CD7B2-CC5F-4B1A-8509-14B5BB435AC0@cfl.rr.com>

"Fed up with the absolute turd that is Windows Vista/"

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/17775/



From gjyoung at cfl.rr.com  Mon Jul  7 21:13:07 2008
From: gjyoung at cfl.rr.com (Gilbert Young)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:13:07 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] TinFoilHatP!!
Message-ID: <668E571A-A483-414D-B55E-64FF46D1DB19@cfl.rr.com>

http://science.slashdot.org/science/08/07/07/151253.shtml



From syberghost at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 22:12:04 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:12:04 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] DTJohn!
Message-ID: <1215483124.6920.3.camel@paragon>

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: DenyHosts
Subject: DenyHosts Report
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:43:53 -0400

Added the following hosts to /etc/hosts.deny:

76.184.51.95 (cpe-76-184-51-95.tx.res.rr.com)

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From syberghost at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 22:14:53 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:14:53 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] TinFoilHatP!!
In-Reply-To: <668E571A-A483-414D-B55E-64FF46D1DB19@cfl.rr.com>
References: <668E571A-A483-414D-B55E-64FF46D1DB19@cfl.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1215483293.6920.5.camel@paragon>

On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 21:13 -0400, Gilbert Young wrote:
> http://science.slashdot.org/science/08/07/07/151253.shtml

I love the guy complaining that the audio levels the military wants to
use could "cause neural damage".  Oh no, the thing they're using instead
of bullets might HURT somebody!

+1 on the 'damn scary ray gun' assessment, though.
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From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Jul  8 13:06:02 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:06:02 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>

Thanks dude....LOL

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I already got my ticket.
>
> If anyone is crazy enough to want it here is the free iTunes crap it
> came with:
> http://www.ticketmaster.com/itunes_email_friend?v=SsAJ0fAUZqg1UYbXUZHdEcXctG1WZH2CbS87UNLArtja4y2_Vzc5UQbeezt_e5pIj2waJ7y_gz_7C_g58Ew_2XEpybEQnhxqaKxlJPER2lFo6RXRZyxUHM0G6OktddjGxNU9raFhYQ4SFFPnJ9HOkEodM79-ono_xfOtvD285Yx1XZDnKOsHBBzaRGgx31E2Gz6266rXXbGNtd9hfoyuIBitsRz62iyvIimmVnkeZLWF6puZl5RMrp4m2TaoPZeGQrn2c214ZD64N4ZQS6T_1C46QKCRXg
> Code: WFHJ4KEMTME6
>
> Whoever tries it first gets stuck with it.
>
> - --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>> To: CFGeeks list <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Cc: Zachary Lausman <ztl at email.com>, Patrick Dowden <mach at ao.net>
>> Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>
>> Iced Earth is comming back to Orlando :)
>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220040C6C01C29FA?artistid=741150&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
>> Plenty of time.  Tickets aren't even on sale yet.
>>
>> --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>> gpg: Signature made Tue Jun 17 12:06:55 2008 EDT using DSA key ID  
>> 56D00107
>> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net 
>> >"
>>
>>
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>
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> =oA1V
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Jul  8 13:07:10 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Hash: SHA1

Wow, that took almost a day.  There may still be hope.

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:

> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:06:02 -0400
> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
> 
> Thanks dude....LOL
>
> Albert Pratts
> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> I already got my ticket.
>>
>> If anyone is crazy enough to want it here is the free iTunes crap it
>> came with:
>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/itunes_email_friend?v=SsAJ0fAUZqg1UYbXUZHdEcXctG1WZH2CbS87UNLArtja4y2_Vzc5UQbeezt_e5pIj2waJ7y_gz_7C_g58Ew_2XEpybEQnhxqaKxlJPER2lFo6RXRZyxUHM0G6OktddjGxNU9raFhYQ4SFFPnJ9HOkEodM79-ono_xfOtvD285Yx1XZDnKOsHBBzaRGgx31E2Gz6266rXXbGNtd9hfoyuIBitsRz62iyvIimmVnkeZLWF6puZl5RMrp4m2TaoPZeGQrn2c214ZD64N4ZQS6T_1C46QKCRXg
>> Code: WFHJ4KEMTME6
>>
>> Whoever tries it first gets stuck with it.
>>
>> - --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>>> To: CFGeeks list <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>> Cc: Zachary Lausman <ztl at email.com>, Patrick Dowden <mach at ao.net>
>>> Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>
>>> Iced Earth is comming back to Orlando :)
>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220040C6C01C29FA?artistid=741150&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
>>> Plenty of time.  Tickets aren't even on sale yet.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>>> gpg: Signature made Tue Jun 17 12:06:55 2008 EDT using DSA key ID
>>> 56D00107
>>> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net
>>>> "
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
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From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Jul  8 13:58:49 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:58:49 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <1CAB242C-BF42-4603-A990-EABF4B836638@comcast.net>

Hope on the list... Just look outside the box and iTunes is #1...LOL

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Wow, that took almost a day.  There may still be hope.
>
> - --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
> 	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:06:02 -0400
>> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>
>> Thanks dude....LOL
>>
>> Albert Pratts
>> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> I already got my ticket.
>>>
>>> If anyone is crazy enough to want it here is the free iTunes crap it
>>> came with:
>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/itunes_email_friend?v=SsAJ0fAUZqg1UYbXUZHdEcXctG1WZH2CbS87UNLArtja4y2_Vzc5UQbeezt_e5pIj2waJ7y_gz_7C_g58Ew_2XEpybEQnhxqaKxlJPER2lFo6RXRZyxUHM0G6OktddjGxNU9raFhYQ4SFFPnJ9HOkEodM79-ono_xfOtvD285Yx1XZDnKOsHBBzaRGgx31E2Gz6266rXXbGNtd9hfoyuIBitsRz62iyvIimmVnkeZLWF6puZl5RMrp4m2TaoPZeGQrn2c214ZD64N4ZQS6T_1C46QKCRXg
>>> Code: WFHJ4KEMTME6
>>>
>>> Whoever tries it first gets stuck with it.
>>>
>>> - --
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>>>> To: CFGeeks list <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>>> Cc: Zachary Lausman <ztl at email.com>, Patrick Dowden <mach at ao.net>
>>>> Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>>
>>>> Iced Earth is comming back to Orlando :)
>>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220040C6C01C29FA?artistid=741150&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
>>>> Plenty of time.  Tickets aren't even on sale yet.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>>>> gpg: Signature made Tue Jun 17 12:06:55 2008 EDT using DSA key ID
>>>> 56D00107
>>>> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
>>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
>>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net
>>>>> "
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux)
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>>> 2FkAoLRhH0r0VzuYHippjLh3gxYXbPQR
>>> =oA1V
>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
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>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Jul  8 14:16:21 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:16:21 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] NASA Announces Launch Schedule for Remaining Shuttle
	Missions
Message-ID: <F5A779B9-363E-4D25-B8FD-4764F4E199F0@comcast.net>

This week, NASA announced the schedule for the last remaining space  
shuttle launches. Barring major delays, the aging shuttle fleet is  
scheduled to be retired before the end of the 2010 fiscal year. A  
brief description of the final ten missions are as follows:

Oct. 8, 2008 - Atlantis (STS-125)
The final service mission to the Hubble Space Telescope (HST)

Nov. 10, 2008 - Endeavour's (STS-126 / ULF-2)
Supply the International Space Station (ISS) and service both Solar  
Alpha Rotary Joints

Feb. 12, 2009 - Discovery (STS-119 / 15A)
Install the final pair of Solar Arrays to the ISS

May 15, 2009 - Endeavour (STS-127 / 2JA)
Install the Japanese Kibo Laboratory's Exposed Facility and the  
Experiment Logistics Module Exposed Section

July 30, 2009 - Atlantis (STS-128 / 17A)
Deliver science and storage racks to the ISS and return an empty  
ammonia tank assembly

Oct. 15,2009 - Discovery (STS-129 / ULF-3)
Stage spare components outside the station, including two spare  
gyroscopes, two nitrogen tank assemblies, two pump modules, an ammonia  
tank assembly, a spare latching end effector for the station's robotic  
arm, a spare trailing umbilical system for the Mobile Transporter and  
a high-pressure gas tank

Dec. 10, 2009 - Endeavour (STS-130 / 20A)
Deliver Connecting Node 3 and the Cupola, a robotic control station  
that provides a 360-degree view around the ISS

Feb. 11, 2010 - Atlantis (STS-131 / 19A)
Install science racks to the ISS and attach a spare ammonia tank  
assembly outside the station

April 8, 2010 - Discovery's (STS-132 / ULF-4)
Deliver maintenance and assembly hardware, the second Russian Mini  
Research Module, a boom assembly for the Ku-band antenna and spares  
for the Canadian Dextre robotic arm extension

May 31, 2010 - Endeavour (STS-133 / ULF-5)
Install two S-band communications antennas, a high-pressure gas tank,  
additional spare parts for Dextre and micrometeoroid debris shields

After the shuttle program is completed, no more large sections will be  
added to the International Space Station, nor will the Hubble Space  
Telescope be scheduled for any additional service. The HST is due to  
be replaced by the James Web Space Telescope in 2013.  Supply missions  
to the ISS will be performed by both Russian and European Space Agency  
rockets until NASA's new Ares launch vehicles come online in 2015.

For more details on upcoming shuttle missions and their crews, visit  
the NASA website at http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle.


Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA




From kevin at inscoe.org  Tue Jul  8 14:22:20 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:22:20 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <1CAB242C-BF42-4603-A990-EABF4B836638@comcast.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<1CAB242C-BF42-4603-A990-EABF4B836638@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4873B05C.5060409@inscoe.org>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

So is windows what's your point?

Albert Pratts wrote:
| Hope on the list... Just look outside the box and iTunes is #1...LOL
|
| Albert Pratts
| Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
|
|
|
| On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
|
| Wow, that took almost a day.  There may still be hope.
|
|>
_______________________________________________
cfgeeks mailing list
cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks

| _______________________________________________
| cfgeeks mailing list
| cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
| http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks



- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Jul  8 14:30:18 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:30:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <1CAB242C-BF42-4603-A990-EABF4B836638@comcast.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<1CAB242C-BF42-4603-A990-EABF4B836638@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081428320.25938@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Hash: SHA1

People in general are pretty stupid.  Just look at the choices most of
them make:
iTunes
Windows
Democrats
Republicans
automatic transmissions
[un]reality shows

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
  	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
  	Systems Administrator		Internet:
  	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
  	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
  	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
  	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:

> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:58:49 -0400
> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
> 
> Hope on the list... Just look outside the box and iTunes is #1...LOL
>
> Albert Pratts
> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Wow, that took almost a day.  There may still be hope.
>>
>> - --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:06:02 -0400
>>> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>
>>> Thanks dude....LOL
>>>
>>> Albert Pratts
>>> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> I already got my ticket.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is crazy enough to want it here is the free iTunes crap it
>>>> came with:
>>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/itunes_email_friend?v=SsAJ0fAUZqg1UYbXUZHdEcXctG1WZH2CbS87UNLArtja4y2_Vzc5UQbeezt_e5pIj2waJ7y_gz_7C_g58Ew_2XEpybEQnhxqaKxlJPER2lFo6RXRZyxUHM0G6OktddjGxNU9raFhYQ4SFFPnJ9HOkEodM79-ono_xfOtvD285Yx1XZDnKOsHBBzaRGgx31E2Gz6266rXXbGNtd9hfoyuIBitsRz62iyvIimmVnkeZLWF6puZl5RMrp4m2TaoPZeGQrn2c214ZD64N4ZQS6T_1C46QKCRXg
>>>> Code: WFHJ4KEMTME6
>>>>
>>>> Whoever tries it first gets stuck with it.
>>>>
>>>> - --
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>>>>> To: CFGeeks list <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>>>> Cc: Zachary Lausman <ztl at email.com>, Patrick Dowden <mach at ao.net>
>>>>> Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>>>
>>>>> Iced Earth is comming back to Orlando :)
>>>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220040C6C01C29FA?artistid=741150&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
>>>>> Plenty of time.  Tickets aren't even on sale yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>>>>> gpg: Signature made Tue Jun 17 12:06:55 2008 EDT using DSA key ID
>>>>> 56D00107
>>>>> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
>>>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
>>>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net
>>>>>> "
>>>>>
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>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>
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>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
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From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Jul  8 14:32:56 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:32:56 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <4873B05C.5060409@inscoe.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<1CAB242C-BF42-4603-A990-EABF4B836638@comcast.net>
	<4873B05C.5060409@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <DE637F17-9CF9-401C-B82B-5D0930C50DAC@comcast.net>

??????

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



On Jul 8, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:

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> So is windows what's your point?
>
> Albert Pratts wrote:
> | Hope on the list... Just look outside the box and iTunes is #1...LOL
> |
> | Albert Pratts
> | Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
> |
> |
> |
> | On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
> |
> | Wow, that took almost a day.  There may still be hope.
> |
> |>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
> | _______________________________________________
> | cfgeeks mailing list
> | cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> | http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>
>
>
> - --
> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
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> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From apratts at comcast.net  Tue Jul  8 14:34:54 2008
From: apratts at comcast.net (Albert Pratts)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:34:54 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081428320.25938@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <F1C42FDD-3364-47DF-97E3-B57B903F73B8@comcast.net>

All my iTunes music is DRM free. and your point is?

Albert Pratts
Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA



On Jul 8, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:

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> Hash: SHA1
>
> People in general are pretty stupid.  Just look at the choices most of
> them make:
> iTunes
> Windows
> Democrats
> Republicans
> automatic transmissions
> [un]reality shows
>
> - --
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>  	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>  	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>  	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>  	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>  	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>  	PGP public key available on web site.
> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,- 
> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:58:49 -0400
>> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>
>> Hope on the list... Just look outside the box and iTunes is #1...LOL
>>
>> Albert Pratts
>> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Wow, that took almost a day.  There may still be hope.
>>>
>>> - --
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:06:02 -0400
>>>> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
>>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>>
>>>> Thanks dude....LOL
>>>>
>>>> Albert Pratts
>>>> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>
>>>>> I already got my ticket.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone is crazy enough to want it here is the free iTunes  
>>>>> crap it
>>>>> came with:
>>>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/itunes_email_friend?v=SsAJ0fAUZqg1UYbXUZHdEcXctG1WZH2CbS87UNLArtja4y2_Vzc5UQbeezt_e5pIj2waJ7y_gz_7C_g58Ew_2XEpybEQnhxqaKxlJPER2lFo6RXRZyxUHM0G6OktddjGxNU9raFhYQ4SFFPnJ9HOkEodM79-ono_xfOtvD285Yx1XZDnKOsHBBzaRGgx31E2Gz6266rXXbGNtd9hfoyuIBitsRz62iyvIimmVnkeZLWF6puZl5RMrp4m2TaoPZeGQrn2c214ZD64N4ZQS6T_1C46QKCRXg
>>>>> Code: WFHJ4KEMTME6
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoever tries it first gets stuck with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> - --
>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>>>>>> To: CFGeeks list <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Zachary Lausman <ztl at email.com>, Patrick Dowden <mach at ao.net>
>>>>>> Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iced Earth is comming back to Orlando :)
>>>>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220040C6C01C29FA?artistid=741150&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
>>>>>> Plenty of time.  Tickets aren't even on sale yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>>>> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
>>>>>> gpg: Signature made Tue Jun 17 12:06:55 2008 EDT using DSA key ID
>>>>>> 56D00107
>>>>>> gpg: Good signature from "BasketCase <BasketCase at sanitarium.net>"
>>>>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>"
>>>>>> gpg:                 aka "Kevin M. Korb, Systems Administrator <Kevin at FutureQuest.net
>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>>>
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>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cfgeeks mailing list
>>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cfgeeks mailing list
>> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
>> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
>>
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> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks


From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Jul  8 14:38:46 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:38:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <F1C42FDD-3364-47DF-97E3-B57B903F73B8@comcast.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>
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	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081428320.25938@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<F1C42FDD-3364-47DF-97E3-B57B903F73B8@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081438320.26473@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Hash: SHA1

It is still lossy compressed.

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:

> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:34:54 -0400
> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
> 
> All my iTunes music is DRM free. and your point is?
>
> Albert Pratts
> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> People in general are pretty stupid.  Just look at the choices most of
>> them make:
>> iTunes
>> Windows
>> Democrats
>> Republicans
>> automatic transmissions
>> [un]reality shows
>>
>> - --
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>  	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>  	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>  	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>  	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>  	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>  	PGP public key available on web site.
>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:58:49 -0400
>>> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>
>>> Hope on the list... Just look outside the box and iTunes is #1...LOL
>>>
>>> Albert Pratts
>>> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> Wow, that took almost a day.  There may still be hope.
>>>>
>>>> - --
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Albert Pratts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:06:02 -0400
>>>>> From: Albert Pratts <apratts at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks dude....LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Albert Pratts
>>>>> Mount Plymouth, Florida, USA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already got my ticket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone is crazy enough to want it here is the free iTunes
>>>>>> crap it
>>>>>> came with:
>>>>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/itunes_email_friend?v=SsAJ0fAUZqg1UYbXUZHdEcXctG1WZH2CbS87UNLArtja4y2_Vzc5UQbeezt_e5pIj2waJ7y_gz_7C_g58Ew_2XEpybEQnhxqaKxlJPER2lFo6RXRZyxUHM0G6OktddjGxNU9raFhYQ4SFFPnJ9HOkEodM79-ono_xfOtvD285Yx1XZDnKOsHBBzaRGgx31E2Gz6266rXXbGNtd9hfoyuIBitsRz62iyvIimmVnkeZLWF6puZl5RMrp4m2TaoPZeGQrn2c214ZD64N4ZQS6T_1C46QKCRXg
>>>>>> Code: WFHJ4KEMTME6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoever tries it first gets stuck with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - --
>>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
>>>>>> 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
>>>>>> 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
>>>>>> 	PGP public key available on web site.
>>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Kevin Korb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>>>> From: Kevin Korb <kmk at sanitarium.net>
>>>>>>> To: CFGeeks list <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Zachary Lausman <ztl at email.com>, Patrick Dowden <mach at ao.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iced Earth is comming back to Orlando :)
>>>>>>> http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/220040C6C01C29FA?artistid=741150&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
>>>>>>> Plenty of time.  Tickets aren't even on sale yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-
>>>>>>> *~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
>>>>>>> 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
>>>>>>> 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
>>>>>>> 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 14:40:55 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:40:55 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081438320.26473@asylum.sanitarium.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081306480.23438@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<1CAB242C-BF42-4603-A990-EABF4B836638@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081428320.25938@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<F1C42FDD-3364-47DF-97E3-B57B903F73B8@comcast.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081438320.26473@asylum.sanitarium.net>
Message-ID: <1215542455.3412.24.camel@sars>

On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 14:38 -0400, Kevin Korb wrote:
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> It is still lossy compressed.

So is the pathway from your ear to your brain.


-- 
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   Shawn McMahon    | Compact florescents considered
   EIV Consulting   | harmful:
 http://www.eiv.com | http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg
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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Jul  8 14:43:26 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:43:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] tunesp
In-Reply-To: <1215542455.3412.24.camel@sars>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806171206090.23699@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807071728490.3023@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<77572D56-9FA9-4BDF-8E9F-9CF50DFA1ED7@comcast.net>
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	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081438320.26473@asylum.sanitarium.net>
	<1215542455.3412.24.camel@sars>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081443180.26734@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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True, but that isn't something I can fix.

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Shawn McMahon wrote:

> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:40:55 -0400
> From: Shawn McMahon <syberghost at gmail.com>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] tunesp
> 
> On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 14:38 -0400, Kevin Korb wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> It is still lossy compressed.
>
> So is the pathway from your ear to your brain.
>
>
>
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 14:58:33 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:58:33 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Don't use KDE
Message-ID: <1215543513.3412.26.camel@sars>

They don't want you to.

http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisedesktop/archives/2008/07/a_foss_manifest.html


-- 
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   Shawn McMahon    | Compact florescents considered
   EIV Consulting   | harmful:
 http://www.eiv.com | http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg
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From kevin at inscoe.org  Tue Jul  8 15:21:16 2008
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:21:16 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Don't use KDE
In-Reply-To: <1215543513.3412.26.camel@sars>
References: <1215543513.3412.26.camel@sars>
Message-ID: <4873BE2C.1020008@inscoe.org>

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Shawn McMahon wrote:
| They don't want you to.
|
|
http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisedesktop/archives/2008/07/a_foss_manifest.html

Desktops are largely irrelevant I am webifying what I can and leaving
the desktop for high end work (which is occasional).

- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Jul  8 15:21:14 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:21:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Don't use KDE
In-Reply-To: <4873BE2C.1020008@inscoe.org>
References: <1215543513.3412.26.camel@sars> <4873BE2C.1020008@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807081520510.28550@asylum.sanitarium.net>

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Hash: SHA1

It is amazing to see how different someones priorities are when they
have a 2 hour commute to work :P

- -- 
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
 	Kevin Korb			Phone:    (407) 252-6853
 	Systems Administrator		Internet:
 	FutureQuest, Inc.		Kevin at FutureQuest.net  (work)
 	Orlando, Florida		kmk at sanitarium.net (personal)
 	Web page:			http://www.sanitarium.net/
 	PGP public key available on web site.
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Kevin P. Inscoe wrote:

> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:21:16 -0400
> From: Kevin P. Inscoe <kevin at inscoe.org>
> To: Central Florida Geeks <cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org>
> Subject: Re: [cfgeeks] Don't use KDE
> 
> Shawn McMahon wrote:
> | They don't want you to.
> |
> |
> http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisedesktop/archives/2008/07/a_foss_manifest.html
>
> Desktops are largely irrelevant I am webifying what I can and leaving
> the desktop for high end work (which is occasional).
>
> --
> Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
> Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
> kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
> GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cfgeeks mailing list
> cfgeeks at mail.cfgeeks.org
> http://mail.cfgeeks.org/mailman/listinfo/cfgeeks
> ------------ Output from gpg ------------
> gpg: Signature made Tue Jul  8 15:21:15 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 61288D53
> gpg: Good signature from "Kevin P. Inscoe (Kevin P. Inscoe - KE3VIN - http://inscoe.org/kevin - April 08, 2003; no password) <kevin at inscoe.org>"
>
>
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From syberghost at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 15:26:16 2008
From: syberghost at gmail.com (Shawn McMahon)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:26:16 -0400
Subject: [cfgeeks] Star Trek: The Experience to shut down
Message-ID: <1215545176.3412.30.camel@sars>

http://www.trektoday.com/news/010708_05.shtml

-- 
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   Shawn McMahon    | Compact florescents considered
   EIV Consulting   | harmful:
 http://www.eiv.com | http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg
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From kmk at sanitarium.net  Tue Jul  8 15:39:59 2008
From: kmk at sanitarium.net (Kevin Korb)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:39:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [cfgeeks] Star Trek: The E